The BC 100 is one of the best all around freeride skis out there. For skate skiing, poles should be a bit longer. and the removal of Koroyd (yay again!). I would go with the 92 over the 99, as you'll get that quicker edge to edge performance you're looking for. Please keep in mind that ski boots DO NOT come in half-sizes. I own a pair of Pinnacle 105, so I'm pretty biased. Who it's For: You want a lightweight ski, but you don't want to sacrifice power, stability, and overall stiffness. If you really wanted to increase maneuverability and playfulness, the QST 99 is great too. Hi SE, (occasional Alps) and looking for a replacement to my Atomic automatics 102s at 188 . (re: my question below) So to summarize, with the two models you mentioned in the 90mm-class and in the mid-180s, we'd be talking about an Enforcer 93 in 185 or a Rustler 9 in 188, right? I heard the Marker Griffon 13 makes trouble sometimes (even out of the box). When skiing this amazingly versatile and competent ski, it becomes apparent that it really likes to finish the turns strongly and with a lot of energy. Thoughts on the enforcer 100 or other skis I should consider? SE. I ski mostly Mont-Tremblant in Quebec. I then demoed the 180 Rustler 10s, but they didn't do it for me -- they felt about the same in the trees as the Kores, but I had a lot of trouble getting a nice carving rhythm with them and they just didn't feel as stable. For example, East Coast skiers may have visions of skiing wide open powder fields, but the reality is that 9/10 theyll have to navigate tight trees before finding their 100 yard straight shot of glory. I'm down to these three: But currently I'm looking for a one-ski quiver that will be maneuverable enough for some quick tight turns but will also let me float a bit in the soft stuff and hold a carving turn or two at mid-speed when required. Based on what I've read, I think the Rustler 10, Kore 99, and QST 99 are probably the best candidates. What Skis Should I Buy: Comparing Men's 100mm All Mountain Skis - 2019 Edition. Can you describe some of the nuances between these? Hi Gian! They check all your boxes in terms of groomer, fun, bumps, light weight, and manageable. For that dual-coast one-ski quiver, the 95-100 underfoot range is pretty awesome. . At 100 mm underfoot, this is the widest Maverick, containing a poplar wood core and two sheets of titanal. Weve had these in over two feet of fresh snow, and frankly, they do just fine. Its a great tree ski for here in Vermont, and its a better floater than its width may indicate. What would your recommend? This boosts its soft snow performance and helps the ski float in soft snow, despite only having a 95 mm waist. Youre that good at skiing. First place I come to for quality insight on the latest equipment. Tom. If you know youre not an Intermediate skier still, but arent quite confident enough to call yourself an expert, then chances are this is you. So you can measure yourself, or you can just check out our handy-dandy chart below. I have been thinking of getting something new that might have a bit more float in pow and playfulness in the trees, but the one other ski I have tried to date (a one-day demo of faction candide 3.0s) felt edgeless and soft. I'm currently on Dynastar Contact 10ST at 174cm, so ready for change. Currently on 181cm Blizzard Bonifides 2015 edition. Keeping in tradition with the twin tip and more freeride-orientation, the Holyshred also employs a relatively long turn radius, coming in at 19 meters in the 182 cm length. The 191 like you're saying is designed for that 1% of skiers in the 6'4" to 6'5"+ range. I also am definitely ready to upgrade and was looking in this category anyways. It still holds an edge well and actually has good vibration damping, but not as quick edge to edge as the QST. Thinking either Rustler 10, Fisher Ranger 102 FR or the Nordica Enforcer. Im 5'10" and 230 lbs. Press J to jump to the feed. With a slightly longer than average turn radius of 20 meters in the 178 cm length, these skis make for a great choice in the bumps and trees, while the metal underfoot and through the tail allow for proper carved turns on firm snow. It's not an exceptionally forgiving all mountain ski for most skiers, but it has that high level of power, vibration damping, and stability that comes along with that much metal. I think I am understanding that I am less concerned about ripping down groomers, although fun, and more interested in a ski that will be fun and more manageable in the trees, bumps and lighter for uphill touring. SE, Hi. Love your videos, you all seem like people who really ski. . Hi Nick! I tend to avoid mogul runs. Have fun! SE, Thanks Jeff. I think in terms of length, the 176 might be on the long side, so if there's a low to mid 170's ski, I'd take that. After a number of demos and research, I purchased the Rossignol Experience Ti 88s (173cm) earlier this season. Hi guys Find your street shoe size on the chart, determine men's, women's, or kid's, and find the corresponding Mondo size! Im based in the Midwest but will travel 1-2 times per year, mostly out west but also some New England. For you and your application, I'd lean to the Atomic. I'm 5'9, 165 pounds, and I'm a predominantly east coast skier. SE, Thanks for this great article and all your helpful reviews. My buddy's kids all have the BC's (aged 12-20 and expert) and love them. SE. Any advice on the skis and the lengths greatly appreciated! Fantastic in the woods and bumps, these skis have some substance to them for sure. I'm frustrated by the lack of edge hold from the Rossis, but I love the playfulness in the ski and how it's performed in bumps, powder, and trees. Ive been checking out the reviews of the Rustler 9 and 10 and think one of those could be a fit, as well. I ski approx. The Enforcer 100 is arguably a little more versatile in terms of an even mix of performance characteristics. After doing some more research it seemed like the Salomon QST 99 would be perfect for me. I'd go 92 unless you want something a bit burlier and wider. It used to be that if you extended your arm upwards, you should be able to reach the tips of your skis. I ski pretty playfully and love doing small drops and side hits. So, while I like those two skis a lot, you already know you like the QST feel, and I'm not convinced you'd like either of those skis more. $226.06. It doesn't have a distinctly playful feel in soft snow and responds to skier input almost immediately. From what Ive read on the two skis, the turning radius of the 177 Mantra is similar to the 185 Enforcer. That shape does lead to a shorter-than-most turn radius, and it makes the ski snappy and agilecontributing to a higher level of fun and play out there on the hill. The Attack 13 is great too, low stand height, wide platform, and the twin cam heel piece makes them a little easier to click in, but you won't have any problems with that. Those were both near the top of my list, along with possibly the Kore. Hi Murray! I am a expert skier and looking to move to a new ski this year, after looking at your 2019 reviews I was thinking QST 99 or Nordica enforcer 100 or stick with bonifides? Hi David! As one of the burlier skis on this end of the spectrum, the Declivity 102 Ti has a wide range of applications and abilities that will appeal to a broad group of skiers. Now, to skis. I was looking at the Nordica's (haven't demo'd but all the reviews look really good) but then tried these. If the pole is too long, then your forearm will be angled slightly up. Hope that helps! $3.99 shipping. I don't want some chattery noodles when going fast but I also don't want lifeless sticks that will leave something to be desired for off-piste runs. This is what used to be referred to as Expert until rocker skis came along and let experts go back to over head ski lengths. What do you think? Hi Tom! What size would you advise me to go for. I'd get on the Origin 106 too if you can, you might be surprised by that ski. It uses a wood core made from silver fir and beech, sandwiched between two full sheets of titanal metal, and finished with carbon and fiberglass. The Rustler 10, in my opinion, starts to feel like more of a freeride ski. Hope my description is clear enough and would love to hear your thoughts! SE, Hi Todd! For my curiosity, where would the Head Kore 93, presumably in 188, come in? Power:Float Ratio, Straight-Line Compliance, Stability at Speed. Question, why the Ranger 99ti and not the Ranger 102FR? Hi I am looking for new skis this year. Last weekend I demoed the 171 Kore 99s and had a blast -- great maneuverability in the trees, awesome pop on the groomers, no chatter at speed or in crud, and overall far better than what I'm used to. I am an advanced skier (5'10'', 170-ish, 31yrs) who spends 95% of my time skiing the North-East. Versus the outgoing 105, this new 102 is a bit less tapered, but with quite a bit more tip rise. Thanks much. With art and build design by ski legend Chris Benchetler and the Atomic Freeski team, this all-mountain ski is a slimmed-down version of the award-winning signature model, the Bent Chetler 120. While it would be difficult to come up with one area in which the Camox excels, well just have to state that its best asset is its well-roundedness. The Volkl 90Eight and the Rossignol Sky 7 are two other choices, but you're probably pretty well covered with the versatile Rustler and Pinnacle series. Check it out! I currently consider myself to be a 50/50 mix of Intermediate/Advanced. Atomic BENT CHETLER 120 Skis 2023. As far as Phantom is concerned, I've found that it's not faster than a good temperature-matched wax, but the permanence of the treatment is appealing to a majority of skiers who don't normally wax. I love that ski in moguls, and I think it would provide a refreshing alternative to your Bonafides. Hi Dave! I'm in western Canada, so I ski Banff, Lake Louise, Kicking Horse. No longer is the Bent Chetler brand synonymous only with playful powder skis, the whole Bent lineup is welcome anywhere on the mountain there's room for a freestyle mindset. The skis on your list are very high-performance, and will certainly fit your personal skiing needs, they'll just be on the heavy side for kid skiing. It's versatile and playful and loves to hop and jump around, but you can also ski pretty darn aggressively and fast on it and it really doesn't become unstable. Head is another company focusing on delivering high-end performance in a lightweight package. I'll admit it had better edge grip and more stability than I was expecting when I skied it. SE, Hi SE! I'd go 184. It doesn't have to be a super powder ski - I have atomic automatics for this - and I would really like it to carve well on piste. (I have to mount my BC 100 but afraid may be to soft? I skied the 193 for a couple of years and liked it more in soft snow, but that's about where my preference ended. Probably 70/30 on/off-piste, enjoy moguls and glades, and powder when I can find it but not terribly often. Looking for your thoughts on those as well. Our Verdict. Im currently on 2015 bonafides in a 180 and ski them pretty well but they are a heavy tiring ski. The Atomic Bent 100 is a do-everything freeride ski. Also the Volkl Deacon 84 (or RTM 84 from previous years) are great skis. If you want to see the 2022 version of these skis in action, check out the video below by Curated Experts for more information. For skate skiing, poles should be a bit longer. Im skiing with an AT Set up (La Sportiva Spectre boots and radical 2.0 AT bindings) On circa 2005 k2 telemark skis. Sometimes, I'm also doing the exposed, steep and icy kind of slopes, so I like having reliable edges when I need them. 177 felt pretty solid, but didn't get to try it on much soft snow for floatation (granted, primary need won't be using it as a pow ski, got the dps for that) Very informative site and chats. Looking for something that floats well, turns easily, stability, good in woods. But perhaps Ive got enough weight and height to get enough reaction out of the 184 Mantras if I need shorter turns? Not bad for $719 ($990 cdn). Can you help? On your list, I like the sounds of the QST 99, especially for it's on-trail capabilities. Im looking for something a little better for off piste, powder and tight tree runs. SE. Add two sheets of metal and two fiberglass laminates to the mix, and youve got a great deal of power and energy in the ski. Even the QST is potentially too light to really support your size and provide a confidence-inspiring feel. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. I ski 50/50 east/west and generally stay within the resort. Finally I should say that Im willing to ski most any runs, but Im not an especially aggressive skier Now approaching 50, I like to pick things apart a little more conservatively instead of hard charging down the mountain, so Im not as worried about being able to hit Lightspeed as I mightve been years ago Hello SE, Eric, Hi Eric! In addition, the skis have that rocker profile to help with the drifty aspect of the ski, and it ends up resulting in a shorter turn shape and a quicker and more agile quality. They have a great blend of stability and maneuverability. You should also, just for the heck of it, ski the M5 Mantra. SE, It's not the most powerful ski and doesn't have the strongest torsional stiffness, but edge grip on really firm snow at speed definitely isn't the focus of this ski, that's why Atomic also has the Vantage 97 Ti. Elan Ripstick 96 Black Edition Damn I love these skis. Hey guys! I think you're on the right track here and I do think the Tracer 98 could potentially work for you. It's one of the ones without any structural metal to it, relying on Fischer's Air Core with carbon nose to generate quickness and edge grip. I am interested in the Kore 99 2022. If you like skiing very fast in wide-open spaces, regardless of snow conditions, then these are the skis for you. Ive heard really good things about the enforcer and it sounds just like what Im after Im just slightly worried whether itll be too much of a change from the sky 7s? I have been skiing Line Chronics for the past 5 years, they are pretty narrow underfoot and only like 176 in length. I'm a snowboarder of 20yrs (hike, pop off features, no park etc), getting deep into skiing the past 5 or 6. The longer turn shape of the Stance 102 is mostly to blame, as this straighter-cut ski loves to be used directly in the fall line. On paper it seems to be basically an Enforcer with more modern materials and thus a bit lighter and hopefully nimbler. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Hi! The new 98 is a way better floater than the 92 that you have--more deep taper and extended rocker in that ski makes a big difference. You agree given my stats? Stowe opens this Friday, so we're not far behind you I'm looking at the Head Kore 99, Salomon QST 99, and Rossignol Sky 99. Line Sick Day 104, 17/18 Graphics. I'm guessing you'll ultimately choose another ski, but I also think you'd enjoy finding out what the new Mantra is all about. -Tom, Thanks Tom! How you describe what you're looking for is basically how I describe the QST 99. Chances are if youre the type of skier who typically skis with a ski-mentor or a friend whos job it is to get you down the mountain. After a long time snowboarding. Awesome. Thank you for the comment! Thinking about going a little bit wider with the next skis to get better off-piste performance. Hope that helps! Weight: 170 lbs The Kore is stiff and light, and I suspect you'll find the same "bouncing" feeling that you get from the E88. I'm looking for a lighter more fun ski that won't tire me out a fast but yet still hold an edge for a guy my size. Thanks, Hi Brian! I liked these skis because they are so maneuverable and forgiving. I'm a snowboarder that skis 20 days a year and my style is probably best described as fast and loose! 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