While many in the congregation were willing to give it a second chance, some members raised concerns about many of these individuals closeness to MacDonald, and their willingness to cover for him for so long. | Photo: Harvest Bible Chapel Facebook The Evangelical Council for Financial Accountability has suspended Chicago-area megachurch Harvest Bible Church following the firing of its longtime pastor James MacDonald and amid ongoing revelations that the ministry had misappropriated funds. Worship With Us. www. I have a love-hate relationship with Thanksgiving Day. It quickly became one of the 50 largest churches in the country, with over 12,000 members and eight campuses in the Chicago area. Im very certain you do not understand narcissists and how manipulative they are I recommend Dr. Ramani on YouTube as she is a great resource to gain understanding but the only chance to fight their evil is to bring it out into the light, expose them for what they truly are. New to Harvest and my faith in Christ, I didnt know what was going on and still kinda of unclear of all the details. My father went through prostate cancer. Fear that your leaving would damage those you ministered to. The flock are the casualties in all of this. Ive been in the medical field for over 40 years and know a thing or two about human anatomy. I would ask you the same question? I dont take joy in this situation, but I rejoice in the truth. Ive been blessed by your teaching and Im wondering if I wouldnt have heard your teaching as much had you stayed longer at Harvest. Leaders should have secular jobs: Nicole, I am sorry if you are offended. Besides, pastors charismatic enough to gain large followings frequently have the ability to effectively deflect criticism and keep their elder board firmly on their side. * 36But I tell you that every careless word that people speak, they shall give an accounting for it in the day of judgment. I do know that my faith will not be shaken. Nellie, Im sorry for your comment. If Harvest and James can answer that, without focusing merely upon what they do, it would be helpful. Harvest womans Tuesday bible study group has not studied a book of the Bible in a couple of years. James MacDonald (born October 4, 1960) is a Canadian-born evangelical Christian pastor, television evangelist, and author. Though MacDonald initially opted to step away from all preaching and leadership roles at the churchs Chicago-area locations, in his January 16 sabbatical announcement he suggested he might still preach at a Harvest congregation in Naples, Florida, which led to another saga. Love you! For this, according to the Daily Herald, Secrest was fired. Id encourage you to read the prophets again, and ask, what upsets the heart of God? And then maybe its time to ask whether those things should upset you as well. I lost the bulk of my community virtually overnight. The fruit of people at Harvest coming to Christ belongs to the Holy Spirit, not to JM. Oh Kristy, Thank you so much for expressing exactly what I am feelingsuch sorrow, such heartbreaking sorrow. She did a awesome job as the judgment of God has come to his house. now James McDonald. Churches Still Depend on Clergy Housing Allowance, No Celebrities Except Jesus: How Asbury Protected the Revival. For years, they had been made to feel like the outcasts, but finally vindication in its godly form was working its way out. Harvest Bible Chapel of Naples, whose leadership recently turned over after scandal rocked its Chicago parent megachurch, is the most . This post drips of mercy. I have only read the first few paragraphs of your post and needed to stop there to send this reply. And your part of the problem. God bless. Lauren Boebert And Marjorie Greene's Adult "So Your Problem with Christianity is the Jesus No, the "Second Shift" Isn't Feminism's Fault. Otherwise, the church must answer the same question, for that is one of the majors that Jesus gave us. The problem was not simply Harvest messaging, but also the teachings that made such messagingmake sense. Precept Inductive Bible Study for Women. The sin that has taken place does not negate the awesome work that God has done, and it pains my heart to hear people act as if it does. Sometimes being good will also mean being nice, but sometimes it will not. Pastor James MacDonald preaches at Harvest Bible Chapel. Can Bubble Tea Bring Gen Z into the Chinese Church. You have to leave before you can see clearly. Lina, a number of years ago I was reading one of your books while waiting for Gordon Z. to join me for lunch. Others have gone before you in challenging HBC to help pave the way and have paid the consequences for their courage. I too had been a part of HBC both as a staff member and member of the church and was there in total over 15 years. You can read that article here. So your opinion is to fire everybody? These are the same elders who signed the letter of unconditional support for James, and then they fire him? Free of James fear. That is why I really rally for our black preacher and pastors like Keion Henderson, https://www.keionhenderson.com/about-us/ ! Why kick him and the church while their down Lina? I have replied, I would have probably, as most have done, put my head in the sand and carried on doing the work God gave me to do. No wonder Harvest dropped the suit. Our enemy loves this. Truth is truth. Being part of Harvest, and hearing how the utmost leaders were tattooed with the Vertical Church logo, as I prepare the lesson, I cant help but wonder about the tattoo on the bodies of those who accepted the mark of James as their alliance with the Vertical Church of James. The pastor took the opportunity to lay into them and basically tell him that he was the one in the wrong. Why if it wasnt really a real sinful mess would so many in leadership just exit and give up what was a big part of our lives and our kids lives? Wake up this tragedy has been in the works a long time. Stephanie Martin, a freelance writer and editor in Denver, has spent her entire 30-year journalism career in Christian publishing. Churches should switch to a different model that is biblically aligned. So great to see your support with your wise comment. Those who step out of line are often dismissed. Sadly, this cancer has spread to other churches that were once part of the fellowship. Pray for James and Christs church that the LORD would accomplish what HE and HE alone is allowing. What happens next? Dont stand in the middle, dont seek to mediate. Well said Lina. Transparency in finances Oh my how that resonated with me and the experiences my beloved and I have had with churches in the UK. The two entities released separate statements detailing the results of the process, which went through the Institute for Christian Conciliation. Plus Lina Abujamra on Why She Left Harvest Bible Chapel | Wondering Eagle, How Christians Care for One Another When Their Leaders Fall BCNN1 WP, How Christians Care for One Another When Their Leaders Fall Urban Christian News, How Christians Care for One Another When Their Leaders Fall BCNN2, How Christians Care for One Another When Their Leaders Fall | BCNN1 Black Christian News Network, From Mars Hill to Harvest: Hope for a Wounded Church Bible Talk. Its like I seek mans favor as well, rather than the Lords. whos fault is this? Laurie Newman, a Harvest member, told Christianity Today that she believes the church's current leaders, like Bradshaw, are "good people who want to lead the church the way God wants it to. The only hope is to totally exposed and excise it so that all will not be consumed. Isnt this just what the enemy of our souls would want? There were several close family deaths, lost our home, business and more. 1st at services, then recording those messages fir walk in the word and finally by publishing them. Another blind believer. Hearing these stories has helped me to realize I left just when I was supposed to. Thank you. While every major financial decision was supposed to be examined and approved by the churchs eldersand it was claimed that this was casethis was not actually happening. God has been known to use even a donkey and a false pagan prophet to speak His word. In 2013, in a story covered bymajor evangelical news outlets, Harvest publicly excommunicated two former elders who were still members of Harvest. superstar pastors are always ,inevitably, trouble. Then came Roys story, MacDonalds decision to sue Roys and the bloggers behind The Elephants Debt (presumably rubber stamped by the current elder board), and the realization that discovery would mean everything coming out. All I have to say Lina is thank you! And in 1 Corinthians 5, we are told to judge those within the Church). The Right's New Lie: The Left Gave Us Toxic Masculinity, The Harvest Bible Chapel Scandal in a Nutshell (And Why You Should Care). Whatever is wrong in Gods eyes He will bring someone to reveal it. Thank you for teaching even in the midst of giving your testimony. Lina has every right to speak her truth . Yet their silence hurt me and sometimes made me question the validity of my reasons for leaving. model and not on the Old Testament hierarchical model. It isnt about timing. Why would we be any different? If you ever make that offer again, Ill be there, but please post on Twitter. But I lived this in the late 70s and early 80s the scandals of the then big preachers they fell down hard as well. Yes, God has this in hand, but that doesnt mean He wont ask His children to do the hard work of calling out sin in unrepentant believers. Sheri coordinates data collection and assists with day-to-day office administration for the church staff. Im replying after reading just your first few paragraphs. Muller had prematurely announced the pastors departure on Friday morning on his show on WLS 890 AM, going on to declare on Twitter, Conman Boss James Macdonald OUT of Harvest Church!. Im so sorry, and Im sorry for the comments here that are going to be painful for you. These churches do not usually belong to any denominational body; this means that these pastors have no body above them that they are accountable to. Did you see the link to my web page. Leba and Sheila- Keep on being brave- it encourages me to do the same! When this happens, there is tremendous spiritual and emotional wounding. Lina you were humble and owned more than most. We dont know if He will allow Harvest not to crumble. During his sabbatical, MacDonald had planned to preach at the. I attended Harvest Bible Chapel for over 8 years and served as the Womens Ministry Director at the Rolling Meadows campus for three of those years (thats the flagship original campus by the way). Otherwise If you share your email address I will email you. The next day, Helmer resigned, citing MacDonalds pattern of uncontrolled anger. The pastor later admitted being too intense in the classroom that day. The decision comes after an explosive scandalous period at Harvest, including a botched excommunication,an ill-fated attempt at a defamation lawsuit, a scathing investigative report from World Magazine and then this most recent, shocking revelation. Often no explanation given, and the band plays on. Do You Really Have to Go to Church Every Sunday? The eight former elders who signed the letter alleged that that Harvest ran a puppet elder board; that a culture of fear and intimidation plagued the church; and that the elder board, which was supposed to be responsible for overseeing the churchs finances, was not granted access to financial information. You can read that story right here. Gosh, so many similarities with the HBC action. She is sharing her heart and personal experience in an open, vulnerable way, in kindness and love. Dont listen to haters. Lina I couldnt agree more with everything you said and your comment here. It truly is the Lords work. You are loved. If you like harvest and the culture of hidden abuse and The narcissistic system in order there- by all means, stay! HARVEST EN ESPAOL is available in person on Sundays at 11:00 AM in Cornerstone. Not one. And the lies werent just shared by James. That the church went on and did not implode or hemorrhage members right then speaks to the prevalence of harmful ideas about authority and church leadership in evangelical circles. I wasnt happy with that but it had to be done! We are wounded and grieving. this isnt meant to hurt you but to support those who need it. 1. All Rights Reserved | Website by Living Wth Power, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISjXhWUyGi0&list=PLud2nIxx0IAT58I8QPBdfrOz8bFMQQcd6&index=4&t=0s, https://radical.net/sermon/kingdom-community/, https://sites.google.com/site/mydreamchurch/, Recommended Reads: Relevant Magazine on James MacDonald Allegedly Inappropriately Touching Anne Green. 3:48. you felt through James harvest mentality, you would be rebellious against authority if you stood up Jesus desires mercy and not sacrifice. Conversions credited to women evangelists sharing the good news one-on-one in conversations. Harvest Bible Chapel's Elgin campus H arvest Bible Chapel has reached a multimillion-dollar agreement to transfer some of its assets to former pastor James MacDonald, who plans to continue in. May the God of all comfort minister his comfort to them. Do elder boards mean anything, or are they just there to look pretty? Based on just the first few paragraphs, I hear you! So the Harvest Bible Chapel elders fired him, fired him from pastoring his own church, which of course was no longer his church to make decisions for, but theirs, as a wholly owned subsidiary. Thank you for your openness and sharing! Until then, you are still a wolf in sheeps clothing. I am excited for all God is doing in your life to help other women get closer in their relationship with Jesus. Im also going to sign up for LWP. Could you provide me with a link please. I was there when Ted launched. When we try to protect those in power instead of those who are hurting, we are not doing the work of God. And this was all the way back in 2012). I would recommend A book Joy Starts Here and The Pandora Problem Facing Narcissism in Leaders & Ourselves as helpful to possibly understand how whats happened can be explained and perhaps bring healing and prevention as members move forward. Despite recent legal cases and reports of greedy abuses, experts say the longstanding benefit remains safe. *Strong Bad: Just for the record, in all kindness Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall. I regret my own weaknesses, my love for the approval of others. There are dozens if not hundreds of witnesses against many Elders at Harvest all saying the same thing. An eight-month investigation into pastor James MacDonald and Harvest Bible Chapel, his Chicago-area megachurch, culminated last week with the publication of a World Magazine article by Julie Roys. Really? Our Elders and Staff are committed to fulfilling our fiduciary duty as the leadership of this congregation, knowing that at times the outcome may be misunderstood or emotionally painful, the elders statement read, promising a more detailed plan for the churchs future in coming weeks. Put faith in Gods justice and judgement upon all, now that sin has been exposed. No Celebrities Except Jesus: How Asbury Protected the Revival, Southern Baptist Convention Disfellowships Saddleback Church, After Pushing for UMC Unity, Former Bishop Joins New Denomination, After Chaos and Crisis, Beth Moore Still Finds Refuge in the Church, With Gossip of the Gospel, the Church Grows in Nepal. He kept telling me that I didnt understand authority and I was in rebellion. Pray for those of us who donate 10 percent of our income and would like to know where the money really goes. I love who you are and what you do. Praying for you, many blessings for all you do. Theres a difference between stirring the pot and exposing false teachers as the Scriptures instruct us to do. Wake up and take some serious deep reflection you follow a man not Jesus that is extremely dangerous my suggestion to you.., workout your salvation with fear and trembling my sister in Christ. Church Online is a place for you to experience God and connect with others. thanks, 1 Timothy 5:20: But those elders who are sinning you are to reprove before everyone, so that the others may take warning. Mike Winger Discusses When God Hardened Pharaohs Heart, Tennessee Church Showcases Tyre Nichols Photography, Louisiana Pastor Sentenced to 5 Years in Money Laundering Case Involving Nearly $900K in Stolen Funds, Steven Curtis Chapman First Contemporary Christian Artist To Earn 50th No. Dont stop trusting or loving. Data Coordination. I volunteer in the childrens ministry and the youth ministry as well, pouring into children and youth. I am sorry for the pain. On January 16th, MacDonald took an indefinite sabbatical leave. And where I live that mostly rules out every English speaking church there is! The confidence I hang on to today is that whether I am approved or critiqued for this opinion, it is Christs love that will catch me and his arms that will continue to sustain me when I close my eyes at the end of each new day. I was a woman ruled by fear. This scandal that were going through has really rocked my world. Excited for the new study, hoping One of your teachings would be chosen. Please support my writing! Youve blessed me when I heard you speak at a Harvest Womens event about 10 yrs ago, through your radio ministry and at an event you spoke at last year. Unreal as I went to Harvest for over 7 yrs and this whole situation has hurt so many people. An eight-month investigation into pastor James MacDonald and Harvest Bible Chapel, his Chicago-area megachurch, culminated last week with the publication of a World Magazine article by Julie Roys. The ungodly jockying for power and control is still an issue in all our churches. It was so hard not to be bitter, and it took a long time to want to be part of another church and not be so cautious. I assumed that you had simply moved on to bigger and better things. Thankful for her thoughtful response and I agree with you that God knows all of this and isnt surprised by any of it including the timing of her response. In fact, he is the one who is no longer pastoring. SHERI PINE. All of it. We are to find our faith and hope in the Message, not the messenger. Mahoney and Bryant shared concerns about Harvests financial dealings, and provided a platform for other former Harvest members, who accused MacDonald of a controlling and abusive leadership style and pointed to an overall lack of accountability for MacDonald at Harvest. Sunday Service-10:15 AM/Wed. Browse 60+ years of magazine archives and web exclusives. A former youth pastor for Harvest Bible Chapel in Aurora has been charged with the sexual exploitation of a 16-year-old boy on allegations he sought nude pictures of the boy and repeatedly. Others, too, could see the attitude. Now its a big business with Harvest all over the states. I see Jesus in youfrom one member of the Body to another. No one knows why. I struggle with the fear of man myself. I pray that moving forward, His love will control me no matter the consequences. Does It Matter Where Your Clothes Come From? James MacDonald, founder of Harvest Bible Chapel in greater Chicago, who was recently fired under a cloud of financial abuse, was allegedly being paid nearly a million dollars per year in regular salary, had access to approximately a million more in discretionary spending, and is currently owed $2.6 million in deferred compensation by the It is a cry to the current leadership, to evangelicalism at large that there are some very serious problems that need to be dealt with. Each weekend, services include live, vertical-focused worship. Perhaps we can do something like that here in Davenport, too. And it wasnt just some random bloggers saying these things, either. Hi Sally, Roys article details three examples of actions that former Harvest employees say reveal MacDonalds hot-tempered, vengeful personality. MacDonald took an indefinite sabbatical in January, following a tumultuous few months defending Harvest in a defamation lawsuit against its critics and in the aftermath of a World magazine investigation into mismanagement at the church. Not just Harvest Bible Chapel. I attended Harvest for five years, and left five years ago. Rather, God is shaking the junkall of our junkout of His Church. There were other things that caused us to leave also. I really doubt theyre sending texts and emails asking for money. There are questions the leadership at every such megachurch should be asking. Those that havent gone through it ask why would you speak these things? After leaving Harvest no one from the church reached out to me to see how I was doing, to ask why I left. You also restrained and could have said much more and didnt. A year or so before leaving Harvest I had written a blog post about holiness in which I had referenced the growing fad of tattoos in our culture. Why? Instead, they have chosen to remain on the elder board and continue with the deep-seeded corruption and fraud that has plagued Harvest Bible Chapel for many years. Sign up to get our top five trending stories delivered every weekday! The good intentions of our ministry partnership with Harvest Chicago have been overshadowed by these developments, he said. If so Id be in agreement but again- this is not a political post. Your truth was not conceived in fasting or deep prayer and it sure isnt loving. That is who God truly cares about. Be blessed. Start praying for Jesus to heal the entire body of which He Alone is the Head. Lina, I know that you did not take writing this lightly, and that it was preceded by much prayer and asking for the Holy Spirits wisdom and guidance in order to strike a balance of truth and grace. God has said that those who are give much is required. Even before the Garden of Eden seduction, he foresaw the need for The Lamb slain before the foundation of the world. Your leaving (however late you feel it was) was His provision for others, much like Joseph sent ahead to Egypt years ahead of his brothers and father. So I called one of the elders in the video and got his side of the story. Were they unaware of what was happening behind the scenes? Browse 60+ years of magazine archives and web exclusives. Thank you for speaking out, Lina! What matters is truth be told. In a statement written by church elders, the Chicago-area megachurch says they fired MacDonald for "engaging in conduct contrary and harmful to the best . Be blessed dear Sister. Harvest Bible Chapel We're here to glorify God through the fulfillment of the Great Commission (Matthew 28:19-20). Harvest elders announced this morning that they were forced to take immediate action on Tuesday to end his 30-year tenure. This is the right time as the judgment of God has come to his people. Im praying for you. Harvest Bible Chapel Naples and its landlord have reached a settlement, ending a court battle to evict the church. In the wake of his departure, the Evangelical Council for Financial Accountability acknowledged serious concerns around spending and financial stewardship under MacDonald that resulted in the church losing its membership status. I didnt know you personally, but was a part of and benefited from the many programs that you offered through womens ministry. 7. *For the mouth speaks out of that which fills the heart. Do you think God approves of pastors who deliberately scam their congregation for years, use his name for money and abuse people for the Almighty Dollar? I was pleasantly surprised to find that you know each other. I love you and our Lird. The whole ordeal was very strange. That is, so many think that the church is the pastors ministry and they dont adequately facilitate the ministry of believers. Unfortunately I dont think the Harvest RM is the only Harvest with a culture of fear. The church was growing at the time. In his remarks this week, he says he confessed his relational failings multiple times, but still lost longtime friends and ministry partners to Harvests narrative. I then called an elder who was a friend and someone I trusted. God is faithful, and He is doing what needs to be done to protect His bride. Following a lengthy season of review, reflection, and prayerful discussion, the Elders of Harvest Bible Chapel had determined that Pastor MacDonald should be removed from his role of Senior Pastor. Listen, believe, obey, shut up. Your sincere desire to move us further in our relationship with Jesus Christ. ! How are you so sure she didnt pray about this? Yet a week ago I posted on FB an invitation to open my house to anyone who needed to talk about their pain as it related to what was happening at Harvest. We never gave up on God because He never gives up on us. On January 7, 2019, Harvest elders announced they decided to drop the lawsuit against Julie Roys and four other individuals. Press on in Truth with Grace and Peace. Im disappointed in your timing. Or is he in effect the church, with an elder board that exists only for show and to rubber stamp his decisions? As a former Muslim, I grew in my walk with GOD because Pastor James teachings from the GODs Word. Until recently, I thought I had escaped my fear by leaving Harvest, but I was still afraid. Is the founding pastor subject to accountability structures? Sports Betting Hits a New High: A Crisis in the Making? Critics of the church are just bitter. Fear is a stupid liar and I praise God that Hes given us a spirit of a sound mind and Love!!! or is it the congregations fault for being weak and gullible? Harvest dropped the lawsuit; MacDonald took a leave of absence; Roys revealed that MacDonald had lied; and then, finally, MacDonald went on a public vulgar, slander-laced tirade against Roys and Christianity Today. Some women were still in the middle of the trauma and were still currently attending Harvest. As painful as it is, all that has been hidden must be revealed. But the truth needs to be out there. Thank you. I really think you hit the nail on the head when you said you realized something dark about yourself, that you had been a woman ruled by fearand I could identify with what you said since I had been that woman too. I do not believe your timing should be questioned. Against authority if you like Harvest and the band plays on but to support those who give. Bible Chapel of Naples, whose leadership recently turned over after scandal rocked its Chicago parent megachurch, the... Because he never gives up on us the problem was not conceived fasting. 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