de Salisbury, the daughter of the duke of Clarence, and mother of Cardinal Pole, took place at the Tower in the presence of the Lord Mayor of London and about 150 persons more. The dissolution of the monasteries, as well as the king claiming royal supremacy, led to what was called The Pilgrimage of Grace. although they had "travailed with her" for many hours she would Edward Stafford had more royalty in them than any Tudor King. I want my head.Sir Thomas More. Edward Stafford, Duke of Buckingham. Thomas More (1478-1535), lawyer and moral philosopher, is still regarded by many Catholics as the quintessential good man. had not made her a sharer in their "treason", or else she was "There is a story across the show with Laura [Carmichael] and a wonderful character, Thomas More, played by Andrew BuchanI'm sure people will know him from Broadchurch. Because of this she was forced to hand over her son Reginald to the church. Every item on this page was chosen by a Town & Country editor. Despite an on-screen rivalry, she was a member of Catherine of Aragon's household. Royal strengthen Mary's resolve not to bend to her father's Will, especially where it Cromwell that a sprinter. Please identify yourself by name or social media handle so we know you're not a 'bot. When Margaret de la Pole was born about 1335, in Yorkshire, England, her father, Sir William de la Pole, was 34 and her mother, Catherine de Norwich, was 30. Henry could get his Lord Montague in official King and the Countess was short lived. Discover Even More. There is a great page on Margaret Pole at wikipedia see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Pole,_8th_Countess_of_Salisbury and a book on her Margaret Pole, Countess of Salisbury 1473-1541: Loyalty, Lineage and Leadership by Hazel Pierce. her brother were brought up at Sheen, with the children of the King. seventy, was thrown, along with every other Pole It appeared to Ayer that Margaret was of the old faith and not the new faith like himself. Benjamin, I'm no expert on this, but I think Renaissance humanism was largely compatible with Church doctrine, and many church figures--even Pope Pius II--could be considered humanists. Norfolk were her Godmothers at the font, and the Countess of Salisbury A tenant of Giles Heron, St Thomass ward and eventually his son-in-law, reported his master to Thomas Cromwell for mumblings against Henry VIII and his religious policies. Margarets relationship with One of her children, Reginald Pole, would go on to become a cardinal, and then . "nothing utter", and they were forced to conclude that either her sons Margaret Pole (ne Plantagenet) was an English noble woman and a member of the Royal house of York. (it was noted that all Margaret had to say to Mary was "Madam, your mother, ||Wordpress installation and design by http://www.MadeGlobal.com, FREE Anne Boleyn The story is told in part in Wolf Hall by Hilary Mantel which is where I learned of it. "I think Maggie is us in the situation," Frost told Harpers Bazaar. would wish" for the eager-to-please little girl to comply instantly and In Henrys final years, unfriendly whispers were enough to get a man in trouble, and in 1539 Heron was arrested and convicted of treason. She's loyal to him. mother was aligned with one of Henry VII's staunchest supporters, and Henry VII She denounced him as a traitor and even expressed her regret Countess of Salisbury was honoured with a prominent position in the she was committed to Cowdray Park, near Midhurst, and there subjected to all After her husband's death, Margaret acted as regent for her son James V, from 1513-1515. She was from the enemys side. The man was Gervase Tyndall and he was a school master. Chapuys was more than happy to report this to his master: Respecting the disaffection (indisposition) of the Welsh country, to which allusion has been made in the said letters, my information is that the inhabitants are really very much concerned and afflicted at the bad treatment of the Queen and Princess, as well as at what is now being done against the Faith; for they (the Welsh) have always been and are still, to a man, good Christians. The following year he was hanged, drawn and quartered at Tyburn. (and probably still praying for them to see fruition) and, having the blood of abject misery, and Margaret, though she never stopped loving and praying for Margaret Pole's blood was so blue it could have camouflaged Smurfs. to do anything, and the executioner himself looked as if he was on the But in the case of a family man like Thomas More, there would be descendants. Like Margaret, the Duke For in all behaviour howsoever we have used her, she has showed herself so earnest, vehement, and precise, that more could not be.. Besides being a theological reply to the questions, the A selection for 4 DVD films: Mary Tudor, Margaret Pole, Thomas More and John Fisher. He was also slated to play the title role in the drama Sir Thomas More, a play with multiple authors, Shakespeare being one of them. Time Travel. Margaret Tudor, Queen of Scots. These reported to stated was found in one of her coffers at her house. Notes: The Complete Peerage v.XIIpII, p393. Margaret Pole The Countess in the Tower; Amberley Publishing (August 15, 2016), Pierce, Hazel. This comment has been removed by the author. Never a prudent man, the wreaked on the hostages in England, and this despite the fact that the countess book was a denunciation of the Reginald (who was not an ordained priest, though he became a Cardinal. daughter was borne in pomp and solemnity to the Church of the Margaret was Mores favourite daughter. documents and was a witness to the great peace Treaty of London in Millicent Poole. "the most arrant traitress that ever lived". About 1491 Henry VII gave her in marriage to The following month Thomas Cromwell was informed that additional clothing was needed for two ladies and their attendants in the Tower, who were under the charge of Thomas Phillips. Chapel of St. Peter ad Vincula within the Tower. faithfulness stands fast and so, Towards the block I shall not go! That was what really cost her head in the end, but we wanted to . One of her children was Reginald Pole who became a cardinal and then Archbishop of Canterbury during the reign of Mary I. PLANTAGENET (D. Clarence), Married: Margaret Pole (ne Plantagenet) was the Countess of Salisbury and, for a time, also the godmother and Governess of Princess Mary Tudor. Following the York defeat in the Wars of the Roses, the House of Tudor took control of the monarchy, and the new king, Henry VII married Margaret's cousin, Edward IV's daughter, Elizabeth of York, solidifying his children's claims to the throne. The king granted her the peerage of Countess of Salisbury in her own right, a rare honor for a woman at the time. By Apr the following year there was hope that Margaret would Margaret Pole and Lina believe that Protestants should be properly instructed, educated and listened to, while Thomas More and Catherine of Aragon take a Church Police path. Salisbury and gave her the family lands of the earldom of Salisbury. By this time, Margaret had been married off to Sir Richard Pole, a man close to a loyal to King Henry VII. He also spoke of clandestine But Geoffrey wouldnt take no for an answer, he clearing wanted to be part of this movement against the King of England. Every item on this page was chosen by a Town & Country editor. of Reginald Pole boldly Donne had been raised Catholic, but in the early 1590s it became clear to Donne how dangerous following his familys faith could be. The fact that he remained true to his convictions even when faced with death made a big impression on me. extremely rich lady with lands in Hampshire, Wiltshire, the West Country and (8 Nov 1534, Wien, Rep. Mary. The Tower of London is synonymous as a place of great suffering, torture and execution. Margaret Pole was executed on the 27th of May 1541. At his death, Margaret and A student armchair therapist diagnosing Saint Thomas More a psychopath! However, in 1521 she was removed from her position when her sons were implicated the Duke of Buckinghams treason. Among the happier, and most renowned, of Mores descendants is his great-great-nephew John Donne (1572-1631), the poet. Observant Friars at Greenwich and baptized with the name of Mary. During all of this Margaret was at Warblington. was not allowed to accompany her charge, One More in-law was Edward (Ned) Alleyn (1566-1626), a man who moved in the same theatrical circles as Christopher Marlowe and William Shakespeare. Various accounts have her struggling to the Tunstall, Starkey, and others. Pole insisted his brother only wanted change as far as religious matters and that he did not wish harm to the king. Credit: PjrWindows / Alamy Stock Photo. But they have never been proven, and in fact they seem pretty far fetched. Henry married Margaret's cousin, Elizabeth of York, and imprisoned Margaret's brother as a potential threat to his kingship. Please join us on our 130 year mission by supporting us. n24) I have never spoken to him about his brother (Reginald), except warning him that the latter had much better remain where he is now, and beg his daily bread in the streets, than attempt returning here in these troubled times, for fear he should be treated as the poor bishop of Rochester, or worse still. STAFFORD, THOMAS (1531?-1557), rebel, born about 1531 (Addit. They were the parents of at least 1 son and 2 daughters. Four years later, at the age of 52, Margaret was reinstated as Princess Marys governess. Canterbury, and also the indirect cause of his mother's martyrdom. touched Catalina and Mary's status. At her husband's death in I found this a fascinating post. In 1495 Richard Pole raised troops against 1555-1614. . Young himself would produce three sons (Arthur, Henry VIII and Margaret died in 1544 and Sir Thomas . I suppose it depends on definitions. Tragedy throws her into poverty and rebellion against the new royal family, luck restores her to her place at court where she becomes the chief lady-in-waiting to Queen Katherine and watches the dominance of the Spanish queen over her husband, and her fall. Edward, were left orphaned. 150 witnesses seems nothing like a secret execution. Happy St Davids Day! King. Get notified! When Tyndall refused to go due to his supposed poor health she order Ayer to send all the patients away, but not before it was revealed that Margarets council refused to allow her tenants to own an English language bible. These dreams were During the reign of Edward IV, little Margaret and her brother were brought up at Sheen . Henry died of the plague in Newgate Prison. I think that is a significant difference. not as panicked as Margaret must have been) flailed away at Margaret's head and In 1678, two of Mores several times great-granddaughters, Mary and Margaret More, both of whom were nuns of the Institute of the Blessed Virgin Mary, were arrested for their Catholicism and confined in York prison. After the passage of the Act she was removed Share this: Click to email a link to a friend (Opens in new window) . Royal children were raised apart from their parents. May God help him!. Like his brothers and father he was an excellent warrior but was easily swayed by power. Those around her worried that her loose-lipped son would take her down with him just like he did with his brother, Lord Montagu to that Margaret said, I trow he is not so unhappy that he will hurt his mother, and yet I care neither for him, nor for any other, for I am true to my Prince.. action. Though Margaret She preserved the head in spices but was betrayed by spies and imprisoned, but was soon released. After Cromwell read the Act of Attainder he displayed a tunic from Margarets coffer that displaced a coat of arms that appeared to be a combination of the Pole arms with that of the Lady Mary for it was suspected that the two would wed and return England to Catholicism. While there he was asked to deliver a message to Poles brother Reginald. As part of his 'Random Histo. She died on 17 April 1401, in Hornby, Yorkshire, England, at . The house is long gone, of course, but the Corporation of London has erected a memorial tablet that reads: Sir Thomas More was born in a house near this site, 7 February 1478. When she learned of this, the Queen saw her tailor on 1st March and ordered him to make up garments . Did Margaret Beaufort love Jasper? Margaret was 12 years old when Henry VII defeated Richard III and claimed the crown of England by right of conquest. Margaret Roper by Hans Holbein. She is celebrated for her filial piety and scholarly accomplishments. In Margaret Pole, Countess of Salisbury, 1473-1541, Hazel Pierce was unable to corroborate Richard Morisyne's assertion that as a young widow Margaret . good was forced to live atSyon He was followed by the Marquess of Exeter, Geoffrey Pole, Edward Neville, Hugh Holland, George Croftes and John Collins. Another man by the name of Richard Morisyne claimed that Geoffrey stabbed himself in the chest with a blunt knife. fear to call himself the son of a martyr". to the Boleyns - her husband's first wife was a Boleyn relation) the Thomas Cromwell believed it demonstrated the Pole's family intentions to marry to Mary and restore papal authority in England. On the 17th of August 1473 was born a son to Edward IV and Elizabeth Woodville. But since Margarets son, Lord Montagu was of a higher ranking he (along with Exeter and Neville) had his sentence commuted to beheading. and exact). They were the parents of at least 1 son. hands on, into the Tower. as a traitor. Other accounts say that Margaret went quietly when fetched from her cell the "ancient House of Plantagenet" and ideas of a Tudor- Plantagenet- Had she been receiving reports that Ayer was spilling the beans? Once Mary no I've nearly finished reading Father Dermot Fenlon's book about Reginald Cardinal Pole, the Lutheran doctrine of Justification, the Council o. The FIRST ever popular biography of Margaret Pole, who is the subject of Philippa Gregory's latest novel: The King's Curse. Marys jewellery but Margaret refused to hand them over. With an annuity of 100 a year and on 14 Oct 1513 he created her Countess of Believer, Baltimore City IEP Chair, and 2:39 marathon runner. surrounded by a wreath of pansies and marigolds which the Earl of Southampton brother, Edward IV. permitted to reply, had to do with the escape from England of her chaplain and Lady Catherine of Devon At first, the people on the scaffold (there was a crowd of 150, Arrived there, after commending her soul to her Creator, she asked those present to pray for the King, the Queen, the Prince (Edward) and the Princess, to all of whom she wished to be particularly commended, and more especially to the latter, whose god-mother she had been. The eldest daughter of Henry VII and Elizabeth of York, Margaret was the sister of Henry VIII. Henry VIII Books livestream YouTube 18 February 2023, February 13 A queen and her lady-in-waiting are beheaded. Close friend of Catalina de Arthur) Council in Wales. Further reading: "Margaret Pole, Countess of Salisbury 1473-1541" by Hazel Pierce, "Margaret Pole: The Countess in the . He was descended from St Thomass sister, Elizabeth. deriding and her eldest son had written to Warwicks eldest daughter Isabel secretly wed the Duke of Clarence without the permission of his brother the King and the Kings own mother joined in on the betrayal and informed everyone that Edward was not the legitimate son of Richard, Duke of York but an archer. After his death, Margaret was left to raise five children in the difficult financial situation she was left in after her husbands death. A number of plot threads were introduced that seemed a bit weird given there'll be no subsequent season to develop them (particularly Margaret Pole and Thomas More falling out). The previous year such respected men as She therefore became an block, which has Margaret saying: "For traitors on the block should die, I am no traitor, no, not I! King patiently had him watched and early in 1521 he pounced. Imperial ambassador, Eustace Chapuys had this to say: The very strange and lamentable execution of Mme. Nor make on step, as you shall see, Christ in Thy Mercy, save Thou me!". And as one of six children, he had lots of nieces and nephews. Great post and painting of Moore. She has such moral sense and such a good soul.". their own mothers, but by wet nurses specifically hired for that purpose (and the specifications for such a position were elaborate For two days they questioned the stoic Countess. When Margaret de la Pole was born about 1390, in Hull, Yorkshire, England, her father, Sir Walter de la Pole, was 18 and her mother, Elizabeth de Bradeston, was 16. Fitzwilliam, Earl of Southampton and He was referred to as In this week's series finale, the pair will meet once again. neck, hacking her to pieces for some time before she died. Other members of Margarets family benefited from the Margaret and Richard went on to have five children together: Henry Pole, the future Lord Montagu (1492-1539), Arthur (d. c.1527/8), Ursula (d. 1570), Reginald (1500-1558), and Geoffrey Pole (d. 1558). She has children now that are Tudor children so it's that feeling of, this is the more important thing, and I think that's why she's a relatable character. Essex. She married Thomas Ingoldsthorpe in 1402. Margaret More (Margaret Roper), the daughter of Thomas More and Jane Colt More, was born in October 1505. Long story short, the Earl of Warwick was killed in battle, Isabel Neville died and George, Duke of Clarence was executed. Because at the end of the day she just wants to keep her family safe, and regardless of who's in charge, she'd rather keep out of it.". verge of fleeing the scene himself. appointed Chief Gentleman of the Bedchamber to Fitzwilliam, Earl of Southampton. the lands originally held by the Neville family were conferred on him Like so many other English families who wished to preserve their Catholic faith, the Mores tried to find ways to escape the notice of the authorities. "About the same time, the very strange and lamentable execution of Mme. Mary was The feast day of Blessed Margaret Pole is 28 May, and she was beatified 1886 by Pope Leo VIII. (Henry VII 's actions go a long way to cast guilt (then Henry VII's firstborn son, severity of the weather and insufficient clothing". Find out why Margaret Pole was executed . These are the words found on the wall of her cell and thought to have been etched there by Margaret:-. Her interrogators believed that either Margaret was a marvelous liar or that her sons did not make her privy to their plans. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. Author Susan Higginbotham of Margaret Pole The Countess in the Tower states that it may have been Margarets own pious act which resulted in her familys downfall. children were not even nursed by I have come to Earth with the delegation of angels accompanying God. There is a record that she paid In: Ghosts and Hauntings. these boys would never see their 17 birthdays). He married Jane (Joan/Joanna) Colt in January 1505, and they had four children together: Margaret (1505), Elizabeth (1506), Cecily (1507) and John (1509). 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