We believe him. Thats because he was competition. I dont know if Mr. X is part of the groups promoting the trail system, but for some reason, I doubt it. A series of events where one girl screamed and then was quickly hit on the head with a blunt object, which we believe is a gun butt. Its a dead end. They all go off and do their own work. FSG is at the trails every day. Cookie Notice In the documents we have, it is openly stated that BG abducted the girls at precisely 2:13 PM. I must've missed something. I would like to know if he has any motorcycle club affiliation, especially regarding a certain outfit with a reputation to be feared around that area? Earlier today, fake DP posted those same newspaper articles and said "someone" sent them to him. Id be surprised if he were in on this, but stranger things have happened. I I heard the girls say repeatedly, Its Elementary Watson, and 2 plus 2 equals 4. That is all it can possibly be. Im sure that was a LOL feeling for him. Expunged just means taken out of public records. Its true by process of elimination. He does not work there at the moment. Number 6, an extremely controversial statement, was told to JM and then to us by a sheriff in a nearby county. Maybe on a dark spiritual level, yes, but I think the Delphi killer has nothing to do with the other murders now. Notice that BG committed his crime with large knives or hatchets, his preferred weapon. Not quite sainthood, but getting there. Kelsi has been investigated quite a bit, and she has been interviewed a few times by the FBI, including a couple of times at her school. It could explain why there was such a drastic image change of BG from first sketch to second one. Delphi Murders Update April 13, 2021: Stunning Rumors about the Murders and Related Matters Now Officially Proven! The February 2017 killings of teens Abby Williams, 13, and Libby German, 14, in Delphi has drawn international attention. Answers to questions about my credibility. I cant demand that my friends give me money! I did not delete the post; which means skipjansen did it. Kelsi has been cleared. Now, Im not a member of LE, and I have never claimed to have investigation experience, but I believe Im a fairly intelligent person with at least average reasoning skills. Are you speculating? Old style 501 blue jeans from the 1980s Dad jeans. If you guys haven't watched this guy, you should. Are you serious? People are saying this is a coincidence, but apparently LE does not believe it is coincidental. Lets discuss what we know and what might have been overlooked in the beginning.As a friendly reminder, I do the best research possible before posting any of my videos, however, the nature of these videos means I rely on news outlets, speculation of Investigators, journalists, family members. I 100% agree about Mr X, and I recently seen a pic of his stepson which I think looks similar to the YBG sketch. 7) Hes local. Ive been angry at LE today regarding this case. Ditto..woke up to this, what a palaver.. 100% this has to be written by an alt account of hisNo other explanation. Calling off the search the night the girls went missing was a really, really bad choice. FSG knew everyone in town. It makes sense LE's statements in the 2019 press conference to the killer and also that when they asked what he thinks people will think when they find out and that he's hiding in plain sight. Its at his home on a shelf! Hi there, have just come across your work and am interested in joining the private group. Forget it. The accusation is that she knows something or knows way too much and is covering for someone, presumably the killer. If it was an adult male, that changes things considerably. Say a POI ends up arrested for any type of felony; with probable cause, LE can then run their DNA through CODIS. Im a retired homicide detective I know what Im talking about. Etc. The sigs are from the FBI and a court official. One stepson, age 21 with the same first and last names. Please do not contact people you are suspicious of or attempt to harass, threaten or intimidate anyone. They talked to Ron and he allowed them to park on her land. But the scanner doesnt say she came to bring the keys. There was a knife sticking out of the log next to one girls head. Do you think an LE source might be talking to one of them or perhaps someone who knows one of them? ), and has a strong connection to the girls. I must say, its obvious that Skip is about four levels higher than Grey Hughes. Say for instance LE arrested Mr. X and charged him with the double homicides of these two girls. The dolls may have been placed there before the crime. They dont say where they collected it from, but thats an important question. Could someone DM me who DP is? An asterisk means the information is proven via LE information leaked to us. I agree I hope CN and this new guy do sue you. Were you a member of the private group? If so, wouldnt the coroner be able to obtain DNA from the fetus? I think the girls met up with BG somewhere on that trail before they got onto the bridge. You mentioned a pic of CSI workers with a doll a couple of days ago did anything come of this? If I can figure out how to post them here.. If they were killed right away, its no problem, but if they were not killed until 12 hours later, its one more thing that makes no sense. Do not release information that can be used to do the same or join in attacks conducted by others. DELPHI, Ind. This just doesnt bode well for him, I mean ESPECIALLY if you consider that he asked to search the Logan property and came up empty-handed. Theyre Delphi related videos comparing his appearance to BG. Were the best Delphi sleuthing group on the Net for years now. Tobor I would love the info [email protected]. To be fair, two other men were also searching Rons land that night and they didnt find anything either, so it looks like those girls were pretty hard to miss. No, LK is the real deal. Summer months. CN: Middle aged man, resident of Delphi. He is wearing a deer kit, which contains five different types of knives. Im leaving it at that. Its a new development in a story News 8 was the first to report last week. BG must have fired his gun at some point in this crime. This is a rumor that a woman walking her dogs on the bridge at 12:30 PM on the day of the murders, a full hour before BG probably appeared on the trails at 1:30 PM, saw a man who looked like the Young BG sketch. Brad was a suspect for a while, and one of the detectives working on the case even stated off the record that he thought Brad did it. In the first four years, two LE officers only affirmed one rumor each. At least two prior marriages. If I were LE, I would take a long, hard look at Rick Brown in Delphi, Indiana. Here are the main things that ALLEGEDLY (no proof guys, just what I received) stood out to me: 1) I got three names, of which, per your instruction, I will not provide here. Its an understandable reaction, but theyre not pleasant to be around. So the stellar members of LE have RL arrested and sent to jail all the while knowing he couldnt have committed this crime but doing NOTHING to stop the entire community from believing, first, that RL was a main suspect in the case,, and second, believing that he was in jail because he was a suspect! What does everyone else who has followed the case closely think about this. I want you to know that your comment is no longer there. He's done that on this post too, wonder if he'll be banned from here as well. Great to see you back on the case! Yes, the police have told us that they now think that Bridge Guy or Mr. X did Evansdale too. Keep at it, guys! This would explain how he could control two teens from running away as well as using a fake gun and badge. The knife in the log was located near the girls right shoulder. A murderer is stupid if he sues someone for claiming he murders. Anyway, LE believes that Bridge Guy is Mr. X. Theyre not looking at anyone else. Good question and we have no answer to it. I believe Mr. X is the guy. Mr. X not only discovered the bodies, but he ran away in terror afterwards. How do you know he had a deer kit and how many knives he had? On the photo of BG on the bridge, does anyone else see handcuffs instead of camera/knife bag? I am a retired Detective Chief previously responsible for the Criminal Investigation Department and all of the 80 plus detectives within as well as a senior investigative officer with experience of leading murder enquiries. There are screenshots showing the discrepancies. I guess one thought about the cops searching for videos, and I dont know the specific wording but could it be they are looking for businesses or residences that have security cameras? Good question Jess. FSG along with others present at the bridge have been investigated as possible lookouts for BG. That could be why they referred to BG as a creepy guy and still following us. Otherwise, and putting myself in their situation, if I saw someone at a distance on the bridge, I would have thought it was just another hiker and would not have been concerned that he was still following me. I also have to disagree with you about your criticism of the police for calling off the search at 3 AM. Just thought I would draw your attention to it. This happened b/w the mid-80s to early-90s. Why not join the 240+ members who have already signed up for the best Delphi sleuthing team of all? Something to think about. Instead of bashing us, why dont you ask why the cops are telling us this stuff? He prefers whiskey, its his drink of choice and hes off without it. Well, the police have told us that they have a main suspect in this case, so at least I am just going to go with the cops on this one. He had his keys with him, so why didnt he move his truck when they asked him to instead of lying and saying he couldnt because he had lost his keys? Let us know if you want to join the private sleuthing site where we can talk about this stuff in much greater detail than we do out here. However, the nature of these videos, means I rely on news outlets, speculations of investigators, journalists and family members. Im from the UK too and once a crowd beat up a Paediatrician because they mistakenly thought it meant he was a paedophile. Have you guys/Skip discussed or explored the theory that DP is covering for someone else - hence the inconsistencies to his story. We have an LE source, a detective in Indiana, who told us just that. We believe he just told LE she was coming, it went out over the scanner, and she never showed up. He said he had lost his keys and was going to call his wife to bring a spare set of keys to him. I estimate that 85% of what we said here in past years has been shown to be false over time. I'll just have to get licensed in the jurisdiction where it happens. Also, I was interested in whether you may be able to cover Harmony Montgomerys case? Both of these people were probably ragers before, so its not like they did a U-turn. Please. In the Delphi Murders: 2/13: The Delphi Murders were committed on February 13, 2017. We believe this because this is what we were told. No. Im just curious what the facts for each side are. The doc is his property. Pretty soon these fucking machines that are dumber than rocks are going to be making all sorts of unappealable decisions about our lives because the capitalists are too greedy to hire a real human to do the job, so they buy a machine instead. I think he already knew that they would be there. Then there is always the question of his occupation. Kline was supposed to be in court Thursday, but a judge canceled the appearance. Hes afraid hes going to be framed with these murders, a reasonable fear. One reason this particular homicide case came to national attention is the haunting cell phone and social-media clues the girls left behind. Abby and Libby were murdered after going for a hike near an old bridge in February 2017. I dont get it. It is interesting that Mr. X appears to have stayed with his truck from 6:30 PM to on Monday, February 13, to 12:30 PM Tuesday, February 14 when the girls were found. He used the ruse to abduct her and held her prisoner in his basement where he beat and sexually assaulted her. I cannot remember which girl had taken the photo of the man on the bridge with her cell phone, but I had read somewhere that on that cell phone there was audio of her saying something about a weird man approaching them and that is why she took the photo. Pregnancies are also risky for 13 and 14 year old girls. Informacin detallada del sitio web y la empresa: ydelecnormandie.com, +33974562807 Installation et rnovation de rseau lectrique Pont-Audemerr, Lisieux, Le Havre-lectricit btiment,Installation lectrique | SARL YD ELEC NORMANDIE No one knows if he did this crime or not. One seems to be PNB and the other is RRB. However, an interesting theory is that BG may have attempted to frame Ron Logan with this crime for obscure reasons. I didnt mean to imply that, sorry. Hes also thoroughly lawyered up, and hes not saying a word. The man who owns the document is not happy with us going public with these docs. To say these girls had things shoved in them without proof is horrible for their parents. A lot of my comments have been deleted, not at my discretion. THE sister of a girl slain in the Delphi 'Snapchat murders' says news of a potential breakthrough in the case reopened "old wounds" last week but has also given her hope that police are finally . She recorded them for a good six minutes and definitely longer. And with the evidence they currently have, they havent proven it. It was all over by 3:30 sure takes a lot of the heat off of LE for calling off that search, amirite? Even if there's someone that may inadvertently turning a blind eye? @lemon @scarlet - I could not agree more. They are most likely related to one another, but your description of Mr. X confuses the two. Hard to believe that there are two DPs and two QPs in such a small area. 43 seconds of audio. I don't mean to offend anyone but I just see a lot of dismissive comments towards theories or suggestions in favor of ones that are just as presumptive and/or rediculous. Thats because they havent been told shit. A famous one is the Lewiston Killer in Lewiston, Idaho in the late 1970s. LE caught Mr. X in the lies about losing his keys, calling his wife to bring him a spare, and a spare even existing in the first place. Maybe we need to clear him a 243rd time then just to make sure! The point is that that Mr. Holder had nothing to do with this crime. He wasnt searching for his keys early on. delphi murders: family of james chadwell says he is 'absolutely capable' of killing 2 teens Then, on Aug. 19, the ISP petitioned the Miami County Circuit Court for custody of an Indiana man . I am friends with one of the parents and to my knowledge, no one has been told if this was sexual or not, only people have speculated. He got turned in because two brothers for some reason were saying that he was BG. A murderer is stupid if he sues someone for claiming he murders. I have no idea either way, but its just something that has bothered me because I dont see him being brought up nearly as much as some others who have had little to no connection to this case. If you want to get to the real meat of the post, scroll down to Facts of the Main Suspect in the Case Mr. X. They have thought they had the right guy several times in the Zodiac case, but all of the suspects fell through. Its all about the zero-sum game. Have for a long time. Wheres the rest of it? Solves 1 waiting Scheduled for Apr 28, 2022 0 Dislike Share Kristin Behind The Crime Door 868 subscribers We will discuss things. Kinda seems like New Cricket is fake DP, but who knows if he's also Skip and Jersey. https://www.reddit.com/r/LibbyandAbby/comments/n33koj/gray_hughes_new_information/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf. Mr. X was employed by Indiana Packers around 2011 or 2012. Unverified but Likely. So hes a murderer. They always came home. In the case of the search of the Maxwell home, a gun was taken from the home in order to do ballistics tests on it. If DP sues Skip and/or TCG for defamation, that will result in near certainty about his involvement. Are they deliberately lying to us? A family member was on their w It turns out that BGs shoes are dead perfect matches for Indiana Packers workboots. Oh one more thing. Maybe he did, maybe he didnt. Suspect arrives before 2pm and cheats on his girlfriend in the car and then goes walking across the bridge with her and into the trails. Is there any way on Earth that BG could look like the young man in that sketch or even an 18-40 year old? He stopped for gas and cigarettes. Victim was an 8-12 year old female. The murders all took place inside of a 10 mile radius and all within just 13 months. I do not feel comfortable using his initials or certainly his name. Abby and Libby, best friends in the eighth grade, were on a hiking. And those are just a few of the suspected serials running around free. DELPHI, Ind. BA, Journalism, Cal State University Long Beach, 1981. I see hot, humid conditions. Kelsi German: Sister of Libby. Furthermore, when people say that I, Robert Lindsay, have no sources, no documents, on and on, please keep something in mind. The bodies were dumped near flowing water, creeks or rivers. Interestingly, I had NO idea who you were (sorry). Even after the girls were recovered, Mr. X stayed around through all of the media and police hubbub for the next eight hours, from 12:30 PM to 8:30 PM, so his truck was out at the crime scene for 26 full hours, with Mr X presumably with it the entire time. Neither Kegan nor Tony Kline can be placed at the bridge on that day or on any other day for that matter. That would mean he would have had to drive back to Delphi by at least 3:45 and possibly later, depending on what town he was in and when he left. before that he was at dump and after that he went to fish store. We dont know about you all, but when we go visit our friends, we generally dont park a quarter mile away and hike in. Merch: https://www.behindthecrimedoor.shop/Donate to My PayPal: https://paypal.me/behindthecrimedoorMy Website: https://behindthecrimedoor.webador.com/Buy Me A Tea: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/KristinTBTCD Community Guidelines. I am creating a special article about this to link to in order to deal with the constant hate comments in this regard so I dont have to keep going over this stuff in every update. Thank you! His brother looks very much like him (for example! Everyone was crowding around to look at the crime he had committed. There is no way he would come back later to stage anything because he wouldnt know how safe it was or how many law enforcement would be around. Cop: Come on, man, we know you did it. The Narcotics detective did not work on the case. Education history: Primary and junior high unknown. This is not Mayberry but a potential Petri dish for psychopaths. The killer in the unsolved Delphi murders is believed to have moved and staged the victim's bodies and taken a souvenir from their 2017 slayings, according to newly-surfaced police documents . No, the other girl was also having sex with males and she also had a boyfriend. Children: Two daughters, one ~22, another ~30. We sent him off to dig into Mr. X. How do you know he had a deer kit and how many knives he had? LE has no clue what is going on. But how could they possibly know this? Active litigation means that discovery is available. He doesnt want to get uncovered revealing official case documents to the media. Both investigators were women. We regard Leaker as credible, but we now demand sources beyond his level to be considered probative. One of our team members talked to a detective in Kentucky a couple of years ago who told us about this expunged conviction. Not sure of the significance here. The next day, their bodies were found nearby. There were definitely some perverse acts done to these girls, but I believe they were done to them after they were already dead. You learn which rumors have promise and which have not panned out. LE still has access to the conviction. Big KAK getting hungry and Dad is no longer speaking to him. And although hes no no saint, I dont think he has it in him to commit a crime like this. Probably at least 6 weeks pregnant if the rumors are true. I doubt it. CM: Not even going to bother to reveal his name. He was the right age, but he doesnt look like BG. I guess Im not sure when he graduated. What would be Mr X reason for leaving them there? If anyone else is involved they know who it is. Delphi Murders- Live- An Evening With Skip Jansen 3,020 views Streamed live on Apr 9, 2022 125 Dislike Share Save Kristin Behind The Crime Door 1.57K subscribers Skip and I will discuss. | ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Instead they were penetrated with inanimate objects, which, last time I checked, do not cause pregnancy. Tony Kline is 65, 310 pounds! The fact that the mere mention of FSG as anything more than a helpful old man out for a daily stroll is met with such hostility well, that raises all sorts of red flags with me even if the vitriol is coming from true crime enthusiasts on Reddit. In general, the less said about the other aspects of his life the better, and they have no relationship to this case anyway. when you send someone a file, you retain a copy for yourself. Distance of residence from crime scene at the time of the crime: Less than 2 miles to the east along the creek. You are an obviously intelligent person and have made many good points. Update: We can now state that one of these documents is a search warrant, specifically for the Maxwell home. The 50-year-old married man arrested on Friday in connection with the 2017 Delphi murders has now been pictured for the first time - more than five years on from the double slaying of teenage best friends Libby German and Abby Williams.. Richard Matthew Allen, from Delphi, Indiana, was taken into custody at around midnight and booked into Carroll County Jail. If you have saved images or conversations with the anthony_shots profile, please attach them to your email, the release said. The Delphi Murders Live Special Guest Skip Jansen No views Sep 24, 2022 Tonight I will welcome my special guest Skip Jansen as we discuss current events going on in the Delphi case.. I see that you have replied to someone after mine, I am genuinely curious about this difference in graduation dates and would like to chat. Skip, thanks for responding to my question. With Skip and Faceman's theory, this is starting to make sense. No one else has come close to uncovering the amount and quality of information we have. @ Skip, Derek forgets something (scarf?) Pay minimum of $20 for lifetime membership to our group. First, a pitch for support for this website and our sleuthing group: Our private group is clearly the best Delphi sleuthing group on the Internet by far and has been since it was founded four years ago in 2017. And when they said BG was actually better described as a combination of both sketches, they were correct too. Stop. They dont risk their careers to talk to bloggers. The documents state that the wound to one of the girls was so brutal that the blood splatter would have been dramatic, drenching the killers clothes in blood. Not sure if its Tennessee, or Texas? Right? Furthermore, almost nothing of consequence is being said, and it reminds you of a night with your friends drinking, and no one says one thing of importance for hours. Unfortunately, its not free. I get it. They call the guy DP and he is a person who was at the bridge/trails at the time and has been considered an eye witness. The police cant prevent private citizens from searching on their own, and its my understanding that many did. How do you know that LE has someone they believe is BG? Have you been in contact with her at all? Holder has an alibi that he was working out at a gym at the time. These people are from all over the country and have expertise in all sorts of different areas. Tunnel visioning on one specific person and traveling to their town to try to prove something you can't prove is literally bannable in the Reddit global rules. Heading to delphi pd and showing his exhaustive google search that shows his POI and then promptly laughed out of town. However, the use of copyrighted content falls under the guidelines of fair use: Section 107 of the Copyright Act- allows the unlicensed use of copyrighted materials for fair use purposes, such as commentary, criticism, teaching, and news reporting. Neither one can possibly be BG. Most of Leigh Kerrs and the search party members testimony has gone into this bracket because unfortunately, while we think they are right, we cannot regard their testimony as probative. This what first aroused LE suspicions of Mr. X. Ron Logan: Enough already. This week we continue our coverage of this very high profile case. Yes, that is part of Leigh Kerrs testimony. They recovered Libbys phone, so they wouldnt still be looking for the audio/video. Could be something more nefarious. At 1:35 p.m. on February 13, 2017, 13-year-old Abigail Joyce "Abby" Williams and 14-year-old Liberty Rose Lynn "Libby" German were dropped off by German's older sister, Kelsi German, on County Road 300 North, east of the Hoosier Heartland Highway.The girls were hiking on the Monon High Bridge over Deer Creek, among woodland in remote Deer Creek Township. If you wish to join, please go here. We all stumble over our words sometimes. Always. A man was a suspect in this crime, and one document, a search warrant, are from LEs investigation of him. - We now have some additional insight into the reasons Carroll County's prosecutor asked a judge to seal records in the Delphi murder case. Im nothing at all like how they describe me. Thanks for your time. We also dont know the name of the hotel or motel that they stayed in. So, DP could be deposed. He took a piece of jewelry from Libby as a trophy thats also buried. The crime was committed in February 13 or 2/13. Also, you develop better sources. As far as my theories, I made a video (see here: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IIoxYhsduLQ) that outlines the visions held a couple of days upon learning of this crime. Even if somehow she didnt know about some surrounding neighbors, couldnt LE just show her (or FSG or the bickering couple in the park etc,) a pic of Mr. X and get verification that way? One person wins and everyone else loses. However, shouldnt that same exact principle/logic apply to Mr. X? They just accept everyone as long as you say youre straight. Maybe. Can not figure out what P stands for. Truth is an absolute defense. If the sketch depicting an older suspect truly came from DP attempting to misdirect the investigation, it's very interesting that it bears such a strong resemblance to his father. If it was deleted it's probably because he is the one on the actual physical witch hunt in actual real life. Homeless for a period in the 2000s, where he resided at a homeless shelter. Schon lange engagiert sich Bruder Lukas Ruegenberg fr Roma in Habe (Slowakei). Oh, one more thing. Read free previews and reviews from booklovers. We also heard it from someone very close to a detective who was working on the case who had confided in them. Also, a copy of the police scanner is available showing that Mr. Xs wife is supposed to be coming to the site to retrieve Mr. Xs truck. Which of them is LEs chief suspect? I'll be happy to represent Nic and the Captain if it happens. @Luciana S- Most of them are from the other sub. This makes absolutely no sense at all. These guys are mostly narcissists and they dont believe in cooperation. Clearly very familiar with the area of the crime and perhaps knew it as well as the back of his hand. He had those white see through covers that cover the bottom of the home to the ground, theyre placed to separate the spacing in between the home and the ground. 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