l fill a gallon milk and shoot not letting it touch the ground and see how many rounds i can shoot through it at 100 yards the most is three rounds so far. I went back and looked at the other reviews and noticed all of their reviews were 100% on every gun. That being said seems like Springfield armory is the issue. (Not available on M1A Tanker). In short, I think the M14 is one of the most iconic battle rifles ever. But I am left handed. I bought a new rear sight cover from Franklin and assembled and the thing shoots like a monster now. Caldwell Lead Sled at 100 Yards! The Scout, on the other hand, has an even shorter barrel and an effective range of only 300 yards. The SOCOM 16 weighs approximately 8.8 lbs. I'd love to own either but I have better stuff to spend 12-1500 bucks on unless I can find someone else to pay my rent for me (any volunteers?). Even with no magnification, author shot groups of about two inches. The SAINT offers upgraded features where they matter most. Its long and respected battlefield heritage has been preserved and enhanced for the needs of today's military and law enforcement personnel. The legendary 1911 with modern double-stack capacity. The AR-type 5-postion adjustable shoulder stock is fitted with a removable rubber recoil pad and cheek riser. The magazine insertion issue is easily resolved by standard 20 round magazines, with the extra length offering superior advantage and grip to rock the magazine in. My love affair with a 308 as lasted my lifetime. I myself feel the M1A is a great rifle. I have a Scout Squad and it is accurate enough for its intended purpose, hog hunting. That little extra recoil, noise, and muzzle rise the SOCOM 16 offers make it damn enjoyable to shoot. What type powder and how many grains? When I took it out of the box, my heart nearly stopped. parts until Springfield Armory, Inc. began AR-15 solutions in rifle, SBR, and PCC configurations. Standard Pistol Calibers. might be a good fit for this gun. Other well proven 1st rate designs like the FAL, G3, AKM are rockers. That is something to consider when Internal Adjustment Range: 75 MOA windage & elevation Click Value: 1/4 inch, Tube Diameter: 30mm, Weight: 14-1/4 ounces Overall Length: 12 inches Reticle: Fire Dot Duplex (illuminated) Price: $599.95 >> Click Here << To See Performance Charts And More Photos Thanks to the team at GUNS Magazine click here to visit them for this Velocity is the average of five shots, measured by a Labradar chrono, programmed to measure velocity 15 feet from the muzzle. I know the debate about whether it's ok to use both in a rifle chambered for one or the other, but the fact that these are both 7.62 tells me you should use that if you're testing accuracy. Sorry, an error occurred and we could not sign you up. Here's what I've learned after 12 years of intimate marriage: WebIn both tactical and traditional forms, the SOCOM 16 will answer your call for a compact tactical rifle without sacrificing power. The G3 and FAL better battle rifles? The Aimpoint was still effective engaging the target at that extended range. The gun industry is ripe with lying sacks. just to sell their product or people who claim they can do something and never willing to back it up in person. With practice, reloads can be just as fast as AR..one thing I would like to mention, when I went through Marine Corps boot camp and infantry school, we were doing reloads with the shooting hand, and not the offhand. views and opinions of Springfield Armory. My M1A match rifle has a Springfield Armory Inc. cast receiver and a Kreiger heavy barrel mounted in a SA heavy stock. WebIn my opinion, 200 yards is this rifle's practical hunting range. Combining modern materials and design with a heritage spanning back more than a century. There are a ton of aftermarket accessories available for the M1A, such as radically different chassis that update its design ergonomics to something that feels much more modern if you cant stand the old-school vibe. Adjustment graduations on the rear sight drum are 1 MOA for both windage and elevation. Once you grown used to 5.56 caliber rifles, you forget how much fun a full-powered rifle with a battle rifle or larger caliber can be. Youve got to rock them into the receiver sort of like an AK, but because the guns ship with short 10 rounders, youve really got to drive the front notch of the mag deep into the mag well, rock the rear of the mag back towards the trigger, and simultaneously push up to get the magazine seated correctly. My 13-year-old son knows it as one of the better sniper rifles in his Call of Duty games. A black composite stock provides interface with an enlarged ghost ring aperture rear sight and XS Sights tritium front post, giving you quick target acquisition. I've shot and loaded 308 most of my life and I kind of know what works. 1911 which has served for more than a century with members of the U.S. military. A handy, tactical rifle, the M1A SOCOM 16 has a specially-engineered 16.25 barrel thats mated to the gas system with a proprietary muzzle brake to reduce felt recoil in a big way. The AK looks like a wave of motion. I would actually prefer a selector switch similar to the AR platform for that sole feature. Matchking bullet for the M1 Garand & M1-A but not all rifles shoot them well. I regularly saw slightly over 1 MOA with iron sights and probably 1 MOA with an ACOG at distances less than 300 meters, probably 3-3.5 MOA out to 600 meters with 147 grain federal fmj, and I could get back down to that 1.5 MOA range with 168 blackhills. Because there are so many general purpose and specialized target shooting loads to choose from, it's a good idea to look for those cartridges with performance qualities suited to close-quarters conditions. He has always had a love of the outdoors and shooting and has been shooting for 40+ years. However, with a few adjustments to the rifle's configuration, it becomes a potent close-quarters combat platform. The muzzle brake works effectively to reduce muzzle rise, keeping the gun level and on target. I have a standard m1a and love it. The single-piece Archangel composite stock is loaded with features that will please the tactically minded. Mine really seems to like 147 grain PMC xtac. Fully loaded with a 20 round mag, it weighs over 10 lbs. At 100 yards from bench? The .458 SOCOM treads hard on its heels, but with a flatter (albeit still arcing) trajectory. Think what (aside from reliability) made the Glock so attractive to police, military, etc. The reason that the safety on the M1 and M14 is located on the trigger guard is so when the soldier or Marine using the weapon reaches to place his finger on the trigger he will feel that the safety is still engaged. PRVI 145 and 180 grain out of the SOC16 both still felt subpar however, and PMC Bronze was decent but did have a flier in the group you see on screen. Good shooters will no doubt stretch that a lot, with high BC bullets, but big game is way different than steel gongs. takes the M1A platform and shrinks it down to a remarkably compact and portable size. Incentive is the key. Just wanted some feedback from people that The .458 SOCOM treads hard on its heels, but with a flatter (albeit still arcing) trajectory. The M1A is a little bit pricey depending on model, but if youre in the market for a .308 American service rifle, its essentially your only option. I have a M1A Loaded that I bought used. Again, obviously much better than the results that we were getting in the two different times we shot the guns previously. The gun also has a scout style picatinny mount just forward of the action, allowing for the addition of red dots or scout scopes if thats your jam. All National Match parts and modifications were incorporated plus a few other tricks that were shown to us by the old guys on the team. Me-thinks you are an AR snob. We really hope we dont accidentally end up summoning the M14 defense squad by even suggesting that these guns are not the absurdly accurate sniper platforms it feels like a segment of pop culture has made them out to be, and for the umpteenth time were readily willing to accept that the problem may very well have been us. Do we not understand the point of aim with M14 irons? Do we really just suck that hard? By requiring that this information be provided, Proposition 65 enables Californians to make informed decisions about their exposures to these chemicals. I have both of the rifles tested and must say I own them for many reasons none of which are long range accuracy. Felt recoil was stiff but manageable. Popular 9mm Ammo. On paper, mission accomplished! There are probably at least eight maybe 10 calibers that may outperform a 308 none of them are very interesting to me and I really don't like hearing about all the new stuff. The SOCOM 16 CQB is one of the smallest, most compact variants of the Springfield Armory M1A rifle. And stay in touch with newsletters of our best articles on techniques, guns, & gear. Recoil is minimal for the 7.62 NATO and, honestly, I really cant tell the difference between shooting this and my full-size M1A Loaded. The official name of Proposition 65 is the Safe Drinking Water and Toxic Enforcement Act of 1986. Anyway the standard I'm giving to my son who is getting out the Marine Corps soon (every Marine needs a M14 :-). Early M1A rifles were built with surplus G.I. I did enjoy the review on the M1A and this little short-barreled partner. It never was match grade when manufactured. Proposition 65 requires businesses to provide warnings to California consumers about significant exposures to chemicals that cause cancer, birth defects or other reproductive harm. Its not 3 gun fun, but youll notice the successful 3 gunners incorporate key element from high power. There is so much more you can do at a total cost of about another $ 500.00 to get a better rifle or you can just keep what you have and go for it. Not bad for a gas rifle with a servicegrade barrel and the Leupold scope set at 2X. This rifle really brings back memories. This feels a little bit odd to grade with a number value, as the rifles design is quite dated. It is the buyers responsibility to comply with all rules, restrictions and/or laws determined by your city or state. ABM ammo shot best groups of the day at 100 yards with Aimpoint installed. Had same issues as your video. I felt I was able to get quick follow-up shots from a standing or benched position. Many shooters may think the lighter weight of the SOCOM 16 CQB rifle will cause an increase in recoil, and that would be true if it werent for the very effective muzzle brake installed at the factory. I packed an m 14 for two years while stationed in Germany, and I was a combat medic. The leading brilliant minds of the time legitimately saw a future in which the M14 would replace the M3 grease gun and Thompson submachine guns, the BAR as a squad automatic weapon, the Springfield 1903 as a marksman rifle, and the M1 Garand and M1 carbine a total overhaul of the ammunition and parts needed to keep a squad well supplied and operational. Springfields techs looked the guns over and purportedly found zero issues with any aspect of them. I was going to purchase one, then decided on something different. The only thing I agree is backwards about the rifle is the exposed rod which can catch on things and cause malfunctions, and forces you to be careful where you hold the weapon. Why have the safety where you have to move the safety off before finding the trigger? The M14, in theory, would simplify the makeup of the weapons fielded by the standard American infantry squad. with the right ammo. First things first: Historical firearms are cool as hell, and theres nothing quite like owning, holding, or shooting a wood-clad gat thats got a story to tell, if only it could speak. Each Loaded model brings you all the custom features you want but without a custom shop price tag. Live The Armory Life. I won't argue against that assertion. Considering the fact that it was 100+ degrees on our shoot day and firing a shitton of .308 on guns with meat tenderizers on their buttplates isnt the most pleasant thing in the world, we resigned ourselves to chill on the M1As and take them to a local range to shoot groups and get them dialed in. Muzzle brake on SOCOM 16 CQB is very effective, and shorter barrel makes for some serious muzzle blast. ), but tank tops were not standard issue in RVN. If you keep a loaded firearm where a child obtains and improperly uses it, you may be fined or sent to prison. Once you grown used to 5.56 caliber rifles, you forget how much fun a full-powered rifle with a battle rifle or larger caliber can be. These are the people that teach our nations sniper instructors. He was born in 1921 and later served as a navy corpsman in Japan and Korea. A lot of safeties are rough on new rifles, guess what they break in with repeated regular use. One thing I really like about the safety on the m14/M1A is that if you forget that the safety is on and put your finger on the trigger (which of course should only be done if youre about to fire) your knuckle will hit the safety inside the trigger guard as an instant reminder that the gun is in fact NOT ready to fire. Are the guns haunted? Fusion soft points, designed for modern sporting rifle platforms, tripped along an 2732 fps. on the GI length barrel, can be used as a crude, but effective range finder. When I was growing up the FN FAL was the dream rifle of everyone but now they are just a fading memory. An AR with an ambi-safety (I am left handed) rubs my thumb/finger junction when I fire the weapon. Perhaps you are expecting too much from a battle rifle. Since I was a member of the Units Pistol Team, I was able to attend the course during the off-season. I have found that the M1A likes you to be vary consistent. I have my Garand and it does need a buddy but I've not sprung for one yet. To facilitate easy transport, this M1A arrives in a black soft case in which one entire interior surface is a loop side fastener. Sure, people can hit targets further than this, but its uncommon, to say the least. I found I was able to hit whatever I wanted with the M-14's that I used in the USMC. These chemicals can be in the products that Californians purchase, in their homes or workplaces, or that are released into the environment. Also, as designed by the military the gas system was only designed to handle 147 grain projectile with fast burning powders.. Lot less recoil, easier to maintain, and a lot cheaper. I was trying to find a M1A in 6.5 Creedmoor and all the information I found online talked about what an awesome rifle it was. It comes up naturally to give a quick and comfortable sight picture without the need for a cheek rest adapter even more so with the red dot. I fired expert in basic training at Ft. Leonard Wood in the winter of 62/63 with the M14, but I am out of practice. The National Match M1A is, according to Springfield, hand-built to win competitions. What is the effective range of a Socom 16? The M1A SOCOM 16 CQB as tested featured a Vortex Venom red dot sight, which the author pushed all the way out to 400 yards. This was a 100 meter range so it was a little over 100 yards and, in all fairness, I had done some competitive shooting but only in small bore. Apparently inferior to the Garand in every metric, accuracy, recoil, reliability and then they shuttered the original armory. THEN YOU ARE A SUCKASS SHOOTER!! I own an M1A Scout and had a totally different experience. The guy I bought it from simply said he "couldn't get with it" and he was going back to his schmidt-rubin to shoot steel. And here it is: It's ALL about what you've trained with! Chronograph results from my Oehler 35P were that the velocity loss is only about 60 fps from the normal length 22-inch M1A barrel. The feel is amazing. Winchester's PDX1 Defender 120-gr. .308 WIN Let us know what you think of the M1A and how it went all wonky for us. I shot 243 on qual day 49 from the 500 Meter line. There are very few sources online that have the credibility to be able to tell the truth, this is one of them. Once worked in, the safety is quick and easy to disengage by simply pushing your trigger finger forward without losing your grip on the rifle, then have your finger ready for firing. I bought a brand new, unused first run RRA .458 SOCOM upper for $600. 4 oz. I had one day where the recoil impulse on my third shot made me think I had a squib round. ABM ammo shot best groups of the day at 100 yards with Aimpoint installed. Plus it's just a lot of fun to shoot :-). The primary complaints were fragile receivers, malformed bolts, poor accuracy, and instability during automatic fire. That being said, I really wish it lived up to its name as the rifle feels really good in hand. As far as quick target acquisition, it doesnt get much faster. Couldn't pass it up at that price and .458 SOCOM is legal for Indiana deer so it was an easy decision. Never owned a rifle that after i learned it that didn't shoot well. parts until Springfield Armory, Inc. began As you can see the shot placement was all over the place. Yes there is a difference. The other is the standard which i bought a year after the SOCOM. For example, the SOCOM's barrel has been shortened to 16.25 inches, the minimum length allowed under federal law. Copyright 2023 Pew Pew Media, Inc. All rights reserved. ABM ammo shot best groups of the day at 100 yards with Aimpoint installed. to PPU. No matter how you slice it, the M1A is a big gun and Springfield isn't going to monkey with a proven system by experimenting with lightweight alloys. Even with no magnification, author shot groups of about two inches. .308 WIN MSRP $2,087 - $2,540 M1A Scout Squad Rifles Combining the legendary power and accuracy of the M1A with the quick handling and fast sight acquisition of a scout style rifle. In our opinion the .458 SOCOM has several design and performance advantages over the.450 Bushmaster and the .500 Beowulf including improved functional reliability and the use of a standard AR magazine. Still I qualified good with it. Next, I had to adjust my shooting style. Old and heavy? Both Army and Navy latched onto those platforms big time, although you can still see pictures in the aughts of super high-speed dudes over in O.I.F. I also want to find a folding stock to make it even more compact and see just how small I can get it. As great and functional as the iron sights are on the rifle, many shooters will want to install some type of optics. I love the aesthetics of the M1 and M14 rifles but they are from a bygone era and it shows. We already have an account registered for email address But now at least I have a rifle that shoots. Re: AR15 16" maximum effective range A 16" AR can get you to 1K with a 1:8 or 1:7 twist barrel with the 75+ grain bullets (maybe 68 grain BTHP). Two senior NCOs, who had extensive experience in sniper and counter- sniper operations in Vietnam and ran a very popular course primarily for local law enforcement, staffed the CS section. So the guns did okay and shot pretty close to what Springfield reported with the addition of optics. I think it balances a bit better, and I liked the sights on the Scout much better than the Socom. ESPECIALLY considering your two shots hitting the same mark with the rest scattered, indicating the gun is on but the shooter's picture is probably off. This is from some one who owns a super for long range shooting. Formal accuracy testing was conducted at 100 yards using the Vortex red-dot optic to shoot five 5-shot groups with 10 rounds fired to check velocity. Rifle in a high ready OR (you won't believe this) tucking the stock under the arm pit to shorten the rifle immensely. As someone who shot the M14 both in training and in combat ( "nam 1966), I had complete faith in and grew to love it. So much to say so little time As a (albeit also somewhat clunky and antiquated) Marine who clambered up, down and side-wise on the hills of the Central Highlands during what you so eloquently described as that "online shit-flinging fest" (I liked that!) Decades of experience with handguns and holsters have given the author some excellent insights into the most popular designs. It just feels good to me, and I find that I actually get a more consistent sight picture with the M1A than I do with ARs. Did the guns get banged up in shipping? Their customer service was excellent, but I still have my doubts about the rifle. Benching it at 100 yards, I was able to get 2 to 3 MOA groups using PPU M80 FMJ BT 145-gr. I think now what Im seeing is more like an average typical Springfield m1a. Often lauded for its durability and accuracy, the M1A platform chambered in 7.62 NATO/.308 Win. Got a sadlak guide rod and piston in it, and of my 18 guns, this one's my baby. Enjoy : Againhighly recommend you check out the video so you can see everything in motion. Caldwell Lead Sled at 100 Yards! The iron sights consist of a winged XS Sight Systems .125" blade with a Trijicon tritium insert in front and a fully adjustable .135" ghost-ring aperture in back. I dont like the socom version, Just the match M1A and of course, the super match M1A. I ran the SOCOM 16 CQB through its paces with a variety of ammunition, including 155-grain Hornady Steel Match, Black Hills 168-grain, and 175-grain ABM tactical ammunition. My loaded M1a shoots sub MOA @ 100 yards & has since 1998 when I purchased it. I shot the rifle offhand at 100 yards on a B17 silhouette target, and follow-up shots with the rifle were fast and easy. The Scout, on the other hand, has an even shorter barrel and an effective range of only 300 yards. The result is a powerful and handy .308 ready for anything. Even with no magnification, author shot groups of about two inches. Been shooting these little guys for three decades & have found some quirks that need addressing before they shoot well. Lastly your article seems to discount the M1A as an almost unuseful relic, taking shots at every tiny thing. Especially since it left their factory with defects. The vaunted mid 20th century designed AR15 is over 60 years old, and only 25 years younger than the "antique" Garand design. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); We are using cookies to give you the best experience on our website. My hand loads had the sierra 168 grain matchking with Varget and I could routinely shoot greater than 90% at 600 yards. Again I'm 72 with way less than perfect vision. Here's the inside story of what they found and how they're rebuilding an industry giant. Exceptional rifles at exceptional prices. You still need something between the gun and the rock or you can develop both recoil direction issues as well as barrel harmonic issues. Shot a 10 round group that was 3.6" width and 6.8 inches high. if u are going to war u want the m1a. It seemed like no matter what type of .308 ammunition we used, from shitty PRVI to decent PM to federal gold medal match, wed hit 1or 2 shots every 3-4 rounds using consistent holds on our steel target. 460 meters/500 yards here. If you can shoot this rifle, don't tell me you are getting .5moa with your 700 because you are not. So, the safety being operated from inside the trigger guard is not "dated" or inconvenient. For the record I also prefer a traditional stock over a pistol grip. Back in January, I did something I have wanted to do for a long time. I'm 72 years old and can't even get corrected to more that 25/20. As for the rifles themselves they certainly have their niche. For me, this is critical because I do not want a weapon that is ammo specific or picky as to what it reliably cycle. The Standard Issue M1A is a faithful semi-auto recreation of the original M14. Proposition 65 also prohibits California businesses from knowingly discharging significant amounts of listed chemicals into sources of drinking water. I can run my M1A just as well as any AR pattern rifle. Early M1A rifles were built with surplus G.I. Aimpoint T2 Micro; Trijicon RMR; wars in Iraq and Afghanistan opened a need for a military rifle that could engage targets at ranges far outside the M-16/M-4s maximum effective range. WebThe SOCOM 16 put three shots into about two inches, with the other two shots opening the group up to about ten inches using the Hornady Steel Match ammo. The gun will work just fine if you adapt your shooting style to it, but it is not the most comfortable experience in the world. Get proficient on YOUR time. hollow point is listed as a self-defense load and designed to not over penetrate. Wash hands thoroughly after exposure. A pair of 1.5 side rails is installed at the factory along with a single 3" rail. I was getting better grouping with my shotgun at 100 yards. Not a big deal but shows lack of attention to detail and quality control. That being said, the company has done a good job of giving it a balanced feel off the bench and making it 2 lbs. The muzzle brake does increase the muzzle blast, especially with the shorter barrel, so any shooters standing next to the rifle when it goes off will definitely know it. They are about equal as far as accuracy. Some of us prefer straight stocks, and done right the straight stock helps control and absorb recoil better than a lot of pistol grip set ups. This means that every time you visit this website you will need to enable or disable cookies again. Ive only put about 80 rounds through it so far so dont really have an impression of how it might shoot but it looks nice. Neil. Great rifle, just takes skill and practice to know how to shoot them. I love the old battle rifles, so shooting this is has a huge fun factor. Once you grown used to 5.56 caliber rifles, you forget how much fun a full-powered rifle with a battle rifle or larger caliber can be. Also had a 1911 from them where the front sight fell right off as I was shooting and the finish so thin it rusted in my leather holster. We were the first training regiment at Wood to be issued the M14 and I have fond memories of that rifle. Even with no magnification, author shot groups of about two inches. He was the Chief Gunsmith for a classified DOD facility performing R&D small arms work for U.S. Special Operations for over ten years. Forgive me if I sound like Captain Obvious, but do you think the fact that you shot .308 and not 7.62 might have something to do with it? Ive been using this spotting scope for some time, and it really helps locate those small holes at extended ranges. 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