(inaudible). We should all help each other out and give love to everyone as much as possible. The trooper instinctively knew that the girl had been telling the whole truth, that Robert was his killer, and more women were going to die unless he was quickly stopped. CINDY: OK. CINDY: A police officer at the Sixth Avenue police department. He remains active in the markets. CINDY: Up to the house. There was a bullet hole in the floor. The woman, who was believed to in her late teens was found on April 25, 1984, near Horseshoe Lake. Let's get it straight: "My wife befriended Cindy for months at all hours of the night and morning without ever meeting her until two days before she was to testify against Hansen. And I said, Fine, no problem.. Why dont we start then with what will be freshest in mind, which is the the cases that are pending now and from what happened in June of last year. CINDY: Yeah, it had a really long barrel. Process Intensification with BC:Ntensify, Technology and Innovation Leadership Team, Brown and Caldwell looks to the future of 75 years and counting, Black History Month and Engineers Week: Why I became an engineer. How did talking to the real Cindy Paulson inform that process? So you go into the garage, what happens then, when you get into the garage? Its another fun, more light-hearted character that the audiences have never seen me do before. I said, no, we can go to my place. He said, no, he didnt want to. CINDY: Yep. When will it be released? Dont cause no problems and I wont hurt you. Her name is Cindy Paulson. CINDY: A little moustache. He had been placed in medical segregation in Anchorage, which is akin to being in the hospital, Daigle said at the time. When his truck became stuck in the mud, the woman tried to run. Hudgens: Were shooting for either late December or the beginning of next year. CINDY: The Buick car, inside the garage. John A. Paulson founded Paulson & Co., an investment management firm based in New York. He seemed really like a pretty good guy. Hudgens: Oh my gosh, Nic is the most professional actor Ive ever worked with and that I probably will ever work with. FLOTHE: The same car as on Friday? CINDY: Yes, its real Hell yeah, Im bothered by it. In this installment, Cindy talks about and proves her observational powers, in this case related to Robert Hansens house on Old Harbor Road. CINDY: Yeah. FLOTHE: What was he driving then, Sunday night? Required fields are marked *. Hansen didn't see his victims as human, the attorney said. After hed heard what Cindy had to say, Glenn knew a few things to be true. The hair on the back of his neck stood up and his neck got red, and he was pissed," Rothschild said in a phone interview Thursday. CINDY: Like a new Seville. If his social life hadnt been bad enough, he never could find much solace at home, either. Only reason I know was cause I was layin there. I think hes such an incredible filmmaker. So it was nice to kind of test my own mental and physical strength. It is so nice when you dont have to build a character from the ground up by yourself. CINDY: Uh huh. After we get in the garage we gotta go up these stairs. FLOTHE: About what time? At an APD station, She explains to detectives that she was abducted and repeatedly raped. CINDY: I knew I was in trouble. See if theres anyone in here that you might recognize. (inaudible) Top nutrition scientist says you should drink as many varieties as possible UK's electric car revolution stalls: Britain falling behind US and Europe in race to become an EV Charles evicting Harry and Meghan is the act of a King putting his country first: REBECCA ENGLISH reveals A royal princess at Eton? Dr. Cindy Paulson, senior vice president and Brown and Caldwell's Chief Technical Officer, is responsible for advancing the company's technical strategy from innovation to talent development and quality delivery. This actually wasnt an uncommon thing for parents to do during this time period, plenty of us lefties in past generations were forced to conform, but apparently this deeply scarred this young man. FLOTHE: How did you know that? They look at them in a very specific way. I said I could meet him at ten or else at eleven. Ducks and birds. On the floor instead there was an airplane seat. Roberts first kill is either believed to have occurred in 1971, 1972, or 1973. CINDY: About eleven, eleven-thirty. RH: Yes. Your email address will not be published. Were the lights on or off? Later the girl stated that she had immediately known that those seven other women had been murdered, and she was very determined not to become number eight! (pause) CINDY: Yep. Like many killers he targeted transient women, they were often exotic dancers and sex workers; after hed charmed the woman of his choice and done his best to convince her of his harmlessness, Robert would talk her into leaving with him. With a wood handle. Only 12 bodies of the 17 women Hansen confessed to killing have been found. When he was arrested for the sexual assaults, Robert had claimed to have been an innocent man, and she believed what hed told her; shed had her suspicions that her husband may have been a cheater who possibly enjoyed the company of an escort every once in a while, but a woman killer? CINDY: Uh huh. CINDY: No. CINDY: Hey, for a blowjob in the car, hell yeah. Rothschild recounted watching Hansen transform into "the monster he was" the day prosecutors sat down with Hansen and laid out the evidence against him. The story of Hanson eluding police and his eventual capture became the subject of a 2013 movie, "Frozen Ground," starring John Cusack as the killer and Nicholas Cage as an Alaska state trooper. Im not involved though. CINDY: He said that he would like to have some company. That opens the door to me being accessible and fully embraced and thats powerful. All throughout the mid seventies and even into the eighties Robert carried on with his hobby of abducting and murdering women, and theres no telling how much longer he wouldve lasted had he not decided to attack a 17 year old girl by the name of Cindy Paulson in June of 83. It was during this 30 month prison stint that he was diagnosed as bipolar with schizophrenic episodes, and wife number one filed for a divorce. Now her body has been exhumed from from the cemetery at Anchorage Memorial Park with the hope that DNA testing and facial reconstruction will lead to her being identified. Laurel Andrews was a reporter for the Anchorage Daily News, Alaska Dispatch News and Alaska Dispatch. Glenn had been involved in the investigation of three murdered women; these victims had obviously been connected, they had all been discovered at least partially nude, theyd been shot with the same type of firearm, and buried in a shallow grave. No matter what her husband did, even after hed been arrested and jailed for rape, she remained by her husbands side. CINDY: It wasnt painted. When I read it, I saw it as a character development project, but seeing it overall pulled it all in together. FLOTHE: And did you pick an individual out that was The many other women who fell into Hansen's grasp were flown into the alaskan wilderness, near the Knik River, where Hansen had a cabin. Heres a link: https://www.patreon.com/Morbidnmacabre. Wanted to put some distance between them, in time and space, just in case somebody had seen them together. CINDY: Um, he had me chained around my neck for a time. We just want her to be identified.'. FLOTHE: Did he tell you what his name was? Humans could have wings, tentacles or an extra ARM 'in the next few decades' thanks to leaps in human DIY fruit and veg! Every time it was in my face. FLOTHE: On the inside of your left wrist. Hansen couldn't or wouldn't help identify her. View the profiles of professionals named "Cindy Paulson" on LinkedIn. And that, um, I was lucky because usually the other ones stayed a week. He was convicted of just four of the murders in a deal that spared him having to go to trial 17 times. I was surprised that I could do it and then go home and be able to feel removed from it. Today, my ideas as an individual come from confidence founded on who I really am, versus the persona. CINDY: The Buick Century. Then on the night, and when this I guess, really began, uh, I met her up town after, well, on the Saturday, CINDY:(Inaudible) gave the gentleman my telephone number and asked him to call me. CINDY: I talked to him and made an appointment to meet him and I didnt show up. FLOTHE: Number five. CINDY: All right. The killer received a 461-year sentence in February 1984, pleading guilty to four of the murders. And he had a green shirt or else it was plaid. CINDY: The automatic opener. CINDY: And then after I looked I recognized him. There. The date on her grave marker is April 24, 1984, one day off the date the body was found. Investigators believe that before killing his victims, Robert would often take them to his cabin in the wilderness in his private jet. CINDY: Uh huh I just want to do everything. Cause this motherfucker wasnt getting away with it. CINDY: It was a black CINDY: Yep. Flothe said. Yes, Cindy Paulson is a real person, and as shown in the movie, she was one of the many women who were abducted by Robert Hansen. And it was just the usual chitchat, you know, asking, you know, got in the car and asked, how you doing and so forth and whether I was looking for a good time and so forth. Uh, FR: Would it have been during the time when your wife and children were out of. FLOTHE: You saw a bunch of money in his wallet? I feel like women have an easier time separating from their characters than men do, honestly. FLOTHE: Can you describe it a little bit more to me? "My gosh, she is running naked and in handcuffs on the streets of Anchorage scared to death," Rothschild recalled of the scene. CINDY: Um hmm. FLOTHE: Make sure you look through the whole book before you decide. All throughout the mid seventies and even into the eighties Robert carried on with his hobby of abducting and murdering women, and there's no telling how much longer he would've lasted had he not decided to attack a 17 year old girl by the name of Cindy Paulson in June of '83. FLOTHE: There is a kind of lightish scar there on your First, we hear about that meet up from Robert Hansens confession. What are your thoughts on the reception to Spring Breakers? 10 Underrated Thrillers That Are Destined To Become Cult Classics, 10 Best Movies Trilogies Ranked From 'Spider-Man' to 'The Lord of the Rings', This Spielberg Movie Only Made a $1 Box Office Profit. It seems most likely that he was arrested for the sexual assaults in December of 71, remained in trouble with the law (he served a short prison sentence) throughout 72, and probably started killing after his release. The others were never located. We all have the same needs. And Ill give you one guess as to who fit the bill perfectly! Robert had been in the habit of keeping a souvenir from most of his hunting sessions, whether it be wild game or women. Its very specific and unique, and its that type of film. He was afraid of running into friends, relatives or acquaintances of people who knew his many victims. BC is creating the space for more diverse thoughts and experiences and bringing better solutions to our clients as a result, she adds. FLOTHE: Like a station wagon? Hansen was officially charged with the abduction and rape of Cindy Paulson and the murders of Joanna Messina, Sherry Morrow, Paula Goulding, and the unidentified body known as "Eklutna Annie." On February 28, 1984, Robert Hansen was sentenced to 461 years plus life in prison with no parole. It must also be mentioned that she and the children were constantly insulted and belittled by Robert, and it wouldnt be surprising to learn that he was physically abusive; there may have been some trauma bonding there as well. But it would be simple psychopaths are master manipulators and first class liars. FLOTHE: Friday morning. Like a station wagon. A mousy, seemingly easy-natured family man, Hansen admitted to killing 17 woman and raping another 30 over a dozen years in the 1970s and 1980s. Hansen said that victim is the woman known to police as Eklutna Annie, a roughly 20-year-old brunette whose body was discovered in 1980 by electric workers repairing a power line outside Eagle River. Hansens Den (Alaska State Troopers) FLOTHE: Now you mentioned this airplane seat. All Rights Reserved., https://lelandhale.com/butcherbaker/wordpress/2017/09/08/robert-hansen-graves-along-knik/, Killers found not guilty by reason of insanity. Interview with Cindy Morgan DontHateTheGeek 2.2K views 10 years ago Whiplash Final Scene - Andrew Neyman's Performance Awais Irfan 14M views 7 years ago Ned Lightner 52K views 9 years ago The. See how my sights are painted with an orange Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. The Special Agent had known that this killer would be into collecting trophies from his victims, that he would have very little self worth, and that hed have a burning hatred for women you know, the usual type thing, but to pinpoint this killers stutter is truly astonishing! Required fields are marked *. FLOTHE: And contact Cindy at this phone number and this room number *Though its not super graphic or bloody, this article does contain a couple of images of the killer posing with hunted game animals. "As far as Hansen is concerned, this world is better without him." Hudgens: It was so helpful. "He was mild-mannered Bob the Baker, and as I'm looking at him, all of sudden he transformed. Required fields are marked *. FLOTHE: Six in the evening? CINDY: Uh huh. Cindy I notice that you are visibly upset and have tears and crying. Cindy Paulson is Portrayed by Vanessa Hudgens In The Film 17 Year Old Cindy Paulson is handcuffed and screaming for help. Hansens Weapon Cache (courtesy Alaska State Troopers; found in the attic of Hansens residence; note the handgun at center left), Your email address will not be published. We are all the same. Buck teeth. Hansen worked in a supply room at the Lemon Creek prison in Juneau, where in 1990 authorities found an aeronautical chart, a hand-knit winter hat, magazine articles on plastic explosives and correspondence with a Juneau boat broker. It shows just how desolate the area is, these poor women really didnt have a snowballs chance. I mean Hansen was convicted in 1984 after confessing to killing 17 women, mostly dancers and prostitutes, during a 12-year span in the 1970s and 80s. So, that was nice. FLOTHE: Did you give him your phone number or did he write it down on something? Like a Datsun Toyota cream-colored car. FLOTHE: Did he call you first or did he just come by? Others have never been found. FLOTHE: Did he point the gun at you at any time? FLOTHE: OK. Where were you at when you saw him on a Friday? He found an outlet for his feelings of sexual rejection and frustration through criminalityfirst via smaller displays of power like kleptomania, then graduating to arson, burning down a school bus garage in his hometown of Pocahontas, Iowa in 1960, a crime for which he served 20 months in prison. Hudgens: I dont like talking about anything until I sign my contract, which I havent done yet, but it will happen most likely pretty soon. Apparently youre bothered by this? Glenn Flothe and his wife, Cheryl, after her successful kidney transplant in 2007 The go-to source for comic book and superhero movie fans. FLOTHE: OK. Was it a blue color? And he had called me and I slept through it. FLOTHE: OK. And hes driving the same car. Do not sell or share my personal information. FLOTHE: So it had a longer barrel than Thats another character that I dove very deeply into. Identifying and finding Hansen's weapon cache would prove essential to making the murder case against the " Butcher, Baker ." CINDY: Nope. Scott did an amazing job at keeping a very steady uproar and pace. Maybe they were different frames. CINDY: Because when I drove past the house there was a sign that said Dead End. I overslept. What was it like working with Nicolas Cage and John Cusack? Though he was doing so well in his new life, Roberts dark urges grew stronger by the day; he could and very often did hunt all of the Alaskan game that he liked, but each kill steadily grew less satisfying than the last. About four stairs to get into the house. And if Im not mistaken I think he had a green or a light t-shirt underneath it. With Patreon you will receive exclusive posts and more, Morbid N' Macabre - 2023. If she saw blood, well, that would also have made sense as her husband was a hunter. Profiling is really an incredible science, its amazing how even the littlest details about a killer can be told by their crimes. STEPHEN Don't just stick to the Malbec! We must step back and reflect to see new opportunities for growth. (pause) Join Facebook to connect with Cindy Paulson and others you may know. Im not correct on the times, OK? One of my greatest aspirations is to change the entire industry, creating a space that embraces the full range of potential and diversity that humans bring.. It was funny though, cause before, when he was getting ready to take me to his cabin, he said that, um, there had been seven other girls before me. Your email address will not be published. Its likely that it was around this time that the rapist decided that hed no longer leave behind any victims who could turn him in to the police, and that he would dispose of these women in the best way he knew how. Investigators are certain that number 17 is small it is thought that Roberts body count is really in the thirties. Is there anything else that you have coming up? I chatted there with her a little bit and, uh, made an agreement with her that I was going to see her sometime. CINDY: It was probably about a 72, cream-colored Datsun, with a kinda station wagon in the back, the kind that you used to It was about a 72 or 73. I saw him the next day, Sunday. CINDY: I believe it was right there right across from the Sheraton on Fifth and Denali. The Big Timber, Mush Inn, I dont, sorry, I cant remember which one. Stephen Hoage, operations administrator for the state medical examiner's office said: 'We know what happened to her. Now her body has been exhumed from from the cemetery at Anchorage Memorial Park with the hope that DNA testing and facial reconstruction will lead to her being identified. Does he tell you anything at that point, once hes got the handcuffs on As soon as he was of age Robert joined the Army reserves and moved to another town where he found himself a wife, but he was still treated badly. CINDY: Um hmm. Cause that was the smallest he had. Hudgens: I thought it was pretty spot on. The website seems to belong to the author of the book which inspired the aforementioned Hollywood movie, his name is Leland E. Hale. (Sound of pages turning. CINDY: Yep. Hudgens: Its important for me because its easy for people to make snap judgments about young women in her position. Cindy reveals that Hansen flashed some bills at her and that she was entranced by the thought of his money. FLOTHE: And what color were his boots? Then they would meet. This site is not free, I pay more than $300 just to keep this. I mean, bills, or did he just give you the change? FLOTHE: So if youre unsure about something (Cindy coughs) just tell me, all right? CINDY: Yep. FLOTHE: You think if I showed you some pictures of some cars later on you might be able to pick it out? In 1984 this serial was sentenced to 461 years, a ridiculous amount of years to ensure that he would never be released again. The serial killer wasnt even on the suspect list anymore, hed been completely cleared. Lemon Creek Superintendent Dan Carothers called it "the bust of the decade" for Alaska prison officials. This is Installment Four of the September 27, 1983, interview of Cindy Paulson by Sgt. And he said well he was gonna start getting his moneys worth. (Cindy Paulson), Cindy Paulson The security guard at that time Glenn Flothe, AST. Kidnapped: The True Story of Cindy Paulson, Murder in Alaska: Teen Killers In The 80s, Arrest of Robert Hansen: Nothing But the Truth, Sort Of, Darla Hansen: The Better Half of Robert Hansen, Hansen's Past Warranted Property Search - Butcher Baker, A Killer's Turning Point, Badly Missed - Butcher Baker. And he had pulled out his wallet and showed me a whole bunch of money And he fuckin had a tan or an Army green tan coat or Army green And boots. FLOTHE: What was your phone number at that time? I said, fine, we can do it in the car. Order my latest book, What Happened In Craig, HERE and HERE, true crime on Epicenter Press about Alaskas Worst Unsolved Mass Murder. FLOTHE: If you can move your hand away from your face a little bit I want to make sure we get it on the tape recorder, OK? Sure, no problem, Im like, fine, no problem. Hey, no problem, you know. Healthy mother-of-two, 32, collapsed and died from brain bleed while she led fitness bounce class, Taking Vitamin D each day could cut your chances of getting dementia, study claims. Can you tell me a little about your character and the status of that project? I just wanted to make her as full-hearted as I possibly could. Hansen later became one of the first prisoners at the newly opened Spring Creek Correctional Center, where he had remained until this year. FLOTHE: Thank you. A one-stop-shop for all things video games. Your email address will not be published. And he had called me and I slept through it. He would abduct the women and take them to remote places outside the city, sometimes driving them and other times he would fly his private plane. Hansen likely would have continued to kill and escape justice if one of his intended victims hadn't escaped. CINDY: On. CINDY: Um hmm. Robert thoroughly enjoyed hunting humans; these ladies were savagely murdered with his favorite weapons: a Ruger Mini-14 and a hunting knife. "I can still see him when he got livid like that," he said. It was a red scar Your email address will not be published. Daigle, the corrections official, said that as far as she knows Hansen never saw the film. He joined the ADN in 2004 and was also an editor and investigative reporter at KTUU-TV. She was a prostitute who was kidnapped and raped before managing to escape, but when she went to the police, Hansen evaded arrest because the lead investigator didn't . CINDY: Uh huh. I wish we could say for sure that this was Roberts final victim, but its thought that there were probably more. People either loved it or they hated it. And then up here on my hand, right in the middle. 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