Certainly the appointment of someone with the stature of Rubin signaled that this was not going to be a junior level kind of a thing and it was not going to be headed by one of the usual powerful people, OMB [Office of Management and Budget] or Secretary of the Treasury. A lot of people wanted to work on Capitol Hill or think tanks or with interest groups. That process had been going on. We founded Evercore in 1995, on the premise that clients would be best served by an investment banking firm free of the conflicts of interest inherent to large, multi-product financial institutions. He loved it. Id actually done that precise role before, in 1976, obviously at a much different age, but I was put in charge of the Treasury transition at that time. You had made your choice to support him before it was clear that he was going to wow a lot of people in New York. Every imaginable issue arose and Clinton hit all those balls out of the park and it gave the American public a chance to see how astonishingly smart and deep this guy was. He knew every comma and apostrophe in the bill. Four agents had been killed and others seriously wounded and it was the worst loss of life in the history of the ATF in a single incident. By that time we were all being treated very well by the campaign because we were seen as the guys who were there at the beginning. Wasnt that a state-chartered institution? We wanted Japan to commit to rebalance the current account between the two countries, including committing itself to some pro-growth steps at home, and we wanted a specific agreement on autos and certain other things. Its not as simple as that. Ill give you an answer but Ill preface it by saying Im not sure my memory is quite right here. But I was briefed on the procedures the RTC had to follow here. Im not the best witness on that because I didnt see it or feel it, but there may well have been. I dont know who was, and some people say there werent any, but I wasnt, even though I was always described that way, always baffled me. Yes, to some degree. Somebody was wrong. The Treasury has a wonderful history of its own and a great deal of pride suffuses those halls. I attended Georgetown University and I was a year ahead of him. Whenever the times got tough or after they left or whatever it was, I think a lot of people who left the Clinton administration lowered themselves by their own behavior in terms of lesser loyalty than they should have had. If Whitewater occurred today or there was some like set of issues surrounding President Bush and his past, I dont think thered be a single hearing about it. I would say that had probably as much to do with the onset of a partisan period as did the Andrews Air Force Base summit, but Im just playing amateur historian here. But in any event, the cooperation in both cases was optimal. But absent such a crisis, history tends not to treat you as a great President. We made two or three trips to Japan and then there was the Tokyo Economic Summitthe G7 Summit in the fall of 93 which happened to be planned many years in advance for Tokyo. Concessions involving individual members of Congress could often be done at a lower level, depending on the magnitude of the concession. He remained in those positions until Lehman was sold. It got more organized as 92 unfolded. People have made that mistake and theyve suffered from it. For example, during the Lewinsky matter, the airways were filled with former Clinton officials expounding their views of President Clintons foibles and why he might have done this and this and that. and I had no previous knowledge of it at all. You see people scrambling to monopolize the left. Toward the middle and latter stages they met everyday. I think less well than he was treated while he was in office. Those are my exact words. Did you get the sense that this is true? I started getting inundated with letters from Congress asking how the RTC intended to handle this, stirred up by this Republican campaign. I dont know. They were done among the United States, Mexico, and the Congressional parties involved. President Clinton, in retrospect, his disavowals on some of his private life were almost certainly false and the way he handled the Lewinsky matter was about as bad as it could be because heessentially swore before the American people that he didnt do it, and of course then recanted. Weve talked about the general idea that the administration was going to accept pain by having deficit reduction in the early years, but theres still the question of how youre going to mete out the pain. His Presidency itself I think was a very strong one, but it doesnt make it into the top five or six. On changes in the bill, unless they were truly minor, those were deliberated at the highest level. Youre referring to the environmental and labor side issues. I attended the little thing at Monticello when he was on his way to be inaugurated, the first time he stopped by in the bus. The President was all over this. But Lloyd Bentsen was in that league, top five or six or seven. Im not joking. Ive seen Washington battles and that wasnt one of them. Carter did the same thing but much lower key. Then there was the other dynamic, which istheir personalities could not have been more different. In fact, it was six months before. But its not too different from Clintons style, very personal, very, very personal. Do you have any recollections of seeing anything different in him as a candidate at that point for that position? What political or personal characteristics does she have that he doesnt have, what does she bring to the. Anyway, then Secretary Bentsen and I repaired to the little study off the White House, the two of us, just to watch the actual vote. As a Democratic President however, he could have vetoed the bill and it would have been sustained by Congress. Did you think it was a waste of time at that point? Bentsen had known the then head of it, Albert Casey, whod been chairman of American Airlines, and didnt have a high regard for him. Way back in season one of Shameless, Fiona got a housekeeping job at a hotel. In other words, at the time I just didnt take Perot seriously. Hed be speaking someplace and Id be playing some role at the same conference at one of the usual conference locations, and we would briefly renew the acquaintance, but I did not stay, in any organized way, in touch with him. I worked in the White House. I mean, he seemed to be quite consistent about that, even though the rest of the field was, as I recall, quite a bit more protectionist. They were using very powerful weaponsI think .20 caliber weapons. So the traditional Democratic field has had in it a few candidates who represent that. Speaking out of school? I said, Yes, I had this one meeting, and told him what it was. Clinton had talked of course during the campaign about cutting the deficit in half during his first four years. You might call it something different. Id had served before and seen how not to do it. This is just a tradition, The answer is, in my viewthis is just my recollection now, other people would have a different onewas economics first, foreign policy second. Bob Rubin. But, you know, its history, its participating right there in the actual, critical moment of history, and the sense of participating is very uplifting. If anything comes to mind that we havent talked about, that youd like to have included. Yes. I remember sitting there, thinking to myself, This guy just did something that I could no more imagine myself capable of doing than I could jump off the Brooklyn Bridge. Well, I got briefed on it and basically, two points here: one is the chairman of the RTC whether it is me or Mr. Casey or the people before him, never were briefed on, exposed to, involved in, or otherwise saw anything at all about the investigations the RTC was pursuing. Georgetown was a semi-serious school. No, I had very little contact with Mr. Clinton for roughly 20 years after leaving. The entire gamut. President Clinton, Democrat, nominated a Republican to this job and the Democrats defeated his nomination. Or Ill put it another waywe didnt know where the President was on NAFTA on that day. You may remember that a few weeks earlier, only two or three weeks earlier, the Clintons had finally caved and agreed to the appointment of a special prosecutor, having opposed that, and Mr. [Robert] Fiske was designated. He may have kicked it off in a certain sense, but it has continued even more strongly to some degree in the last couple of years, but that was another broad historical development, critical historical development, which characterized the Clinton period. I mean, Republicans are opposing it because its tax and spend, the President is upset about it because its Wall Street economics. It was not as big a change as it was advertised to be, or has been seen historically. Mr. Altman began his investment banking career at Lehman Brothers, advancing to general partner in 1974. So its really a role that varies from Secretary to Secretary in terms of what that Secretary wants, and thats just a history of it. As far as healthcare versus welfare reform? The arrangements, as far as the White House, how it passes operation, and the Treasury operationshould that be seen as well coordinated, or is it difficult to coordinate? But that was fairly brief, though. There was a group of three or four of us who were doing Japan policy. Clinton had his own style of charm and Bush has a little bit different style, but not very different. And, to some degree it was also, of course, for Clinton to take the measure of certain people he might be appointing. Sure, but I dont feel we can claim tremendous credit for much of that. I began to see on pickup trucks around Charlottesville, very soon after Clinton became President, Impeach Bill Clinton and I dont thinkI remember Impeach Earl Warren signs, Im that old. It turned out that the thing had really been left by the wayside and there was very little of the necessary planning that had gone into it and it was about two months off. The meetings became sort of a phenomenon and some people thought they were great because they were so inclusive and here we were having opportunities to spend hours with the President. Who was the New York group that helped him with fundraising and maybe also with policy? Im in the first camp, it was a great triumph, but Im not sure that history will accord him that. I think at the Pond House meetings there were also some of the Congressional leaders, werent there? Roger C. Altman. He just determined each time that what he had to do was get through this chapter and somehow live to fight for the next one and didnt take the longer view. I knew Paul Tsongas and he was a nice man, a good man, but he was not a good politician and I didnt see Paul Tsongas being the nominee. But its just a reality that in an economy of that size, spending changes arent going to have much effect on the economy; monetary changes can. Lloyd Bentsen was a classic Texas conservative Democrat. Was it his personality that won, or was he able to? Mostly the latter. Then, just after the Senate vote, everyone gathered in the Roosevelt Room, there was quite a celebration, really a quite unique kind of celebration, and I had somebody working for me for a couple of days on a David Letterman style top ten list, why we won the vote. While most of this was extreme and unjustified, President Clinton played a role in it himself. Anyway, that was the high point, by far, of my own service, both in terms of the drama and the sense of having contributed something important. One of the reasons why the ultimate votes on his economic plan were as close as they could possibly be, one vote in the House and tie vote in the Senate, was because he was dealing from weakness. Any particular memories from that successful trip? During the Ford administration they had something called the Economic Policy Board I believe it was, EPB and Bill Simon as Secretary of Treasury was the head of the board and it met actually every morning in the White House. I dont know how many people would have the political courage to do that, but I know I wouldnt have. Whats the question, why didnt Clinton embrace welfare ahead of healthcare? So, as always happens, the policy apparatus was being built and the policy process was being deepened and becoming more sophisticated as the entire campaign evolved. Then, while the agreement called for there to be no further duties or tariffs or anything on everything, a whole variety of items were carved out in order to get certain votes. Is it okay if we move away from the crisis of getting the big things through to just the more mundane ways that the government ran while you were there? I also think it is wrong politically. Fourth, I recall that the economic forecasts for 93 were not very heartening. For example, much has been made of the dueling camps, the deficit hawks versus the populists. Bentsen really respected Dole. Was there a perceivable influence from your perspective on having Perot in the campaign, making the deficit an issue from his vantage point? Were there any members in particular with whom you worked directly that you felt you were personally responsible for salvaging? But my guess is that those kinds of. That was a factor. Im sure there are lots of aspects of the preparation plan. He got Republican ex-Presidents to sign on, though, as I recall. Clinton, as I mentioned before, held a series of marathon meetings, I recall that virtually all of them were on the Roosevelt Room, and they went on for four, five, six, seven hours, talking about possible elements of the economic program. Theodore Roosevelts name comes up occasionally as somebody that even Clinton himself had at least a temporary fixation on when he was evidently considering his own legacy as some one who took a progressive era, being a kind of rough approximation to the. Roger Altman, chairman and founder at Evercore, discusses the state of the U.S. economy, the four things that need to be included in the next round of stimulus, and Let me give you an example that is appropriate to the present. But in any event, it hasnt ended with President Clintons leaving. There are some very famous stories about Bentsens war experience. I might have a point of view about what those ought to be based on certain inputs I was receiving directly from the Hill and we need to work more on this or that. Andrew Garfield presented the Robert Altman Award at the 2022 Film Independent Spirit Awards to his old friend, Fran Kranz, for his film Mass. Lets face it, NAFTA has worked. I know I didnt and I was very involved in trade policy as a whole because much of our trade policy involved Japan and I was very involved in that. In part, there was a sectoral approach. The bills up on the Hill and it is the object of tremendous controversy and heat and light. We talked for about 12 seconds about any role that I might play. Well, yes, Carter tried a version of that. We just didnt know, and thats pretty amazing, the biggest piece of legislation, the voting has actually begun. No, I went back the next day. Why a war room? Also, wed had 12 years of Republican rule and there was a widespread sense of time for change. Like everybody else, I thought he was finished when the Gennifer Flowers event emerged. Could you see at that point a set of priorities emerging with the candidate? Youve already mentioned the people who were attending that particular meeting. How early were you beginning to get a sense that the Republicans were going to be an historically difficult problem for this President? I think Henry Kissinger would still be Secretary of State if people had allowed him to be, whatever he thought of who he was serving. Hed been in office a month or two, defeated by a coalition of Republicans and conservative Democrats, and that was many months before the fateful votes on the economic plan. I can tell you without any fear of contradiction that anyone who makes either of those mistakes, and I can think of others, will ultimately rue the day that he made them. Altman made a point to carry shoes as tiny as size 5 and mammoth as size 20, with widths ranging from super skinny AAAA to 6E and kept 23 basement storage But I think he may turn out to have transformed the party, which really is an important historical achievement. It began to get organized at the end of 91. And it was very effective because a lot of the people who came were opinion makers and he made a tremendous impression. I left the Treasury about a month later when my successor Frank Newman, who was then Under Secretary for Domestic Finance, was nominated and had been confirmed. Had there always been a sense on your part that your likely posting in the administration would be in Treasury or. I divided my time between the transition office and the Treasury. I guess I probably began to help raise money, its a rough memory now, in the early fall, perhaps September of 91. Well, within about two weeks of the election, certainly by the end of November, the actual transition offices were established in Washington. Of course, by November 94, many of the benefits of this program had not yet evolved. He paid more attention to golf and girls in University. There was also a whole series of other investigations undertaken at the same time, one by the Office of Government Ethics, one by the Treasury Inspector General, one by the Office of White House Counsel. Maybe there was, I wasnt privy to that or exposed to that. We wont get into a philosophy, an argument, about causation, I think Reagans Presidency, a bit, goes against what youre saying, thats all. But, first, right at the outset, it was a terribly flawed idea to have a full-time member of the administration serving also as the head of an independent regulatory agency and that should have dawned on me in the earliest going, just the inherent conflict there. Because the opponents had succeeded in changing the question, or framing the question, however you want to put it and that had taken hold in the country and the perception across the entire country, from North to South and so forth, was that this is nationalization of healthcare, which nobody in the United States favors. Did you stay in Little Rock for a while afterward? I just never took him seriously as a candidate. We were the easy solution for the press. There were not pitched battles. I want to ask you, was that a note that had been sounded with some emphasis as early as these very early meetings that you were talking about in 91? I taught at Georgetown for a little while, and the distinguishing features of the students that I would have had ten or twelve years ago were that they had a high degree of interest in national and international politics. Well, it can be revived at any time, the Congress can just vote to revive it. We knew each other, but we turned out to be the first two to go down and I dont know why that was. So I knew a little bit about what was worth doing and what wasnt. The politics of the Btu tax per se versus other types of energy taxes, including the gas tax, which we ultimately fell back on, werent well considered. You dont want to start your Presidency off with a legislative defeat. They just didnt do it. Who the key players were and so forth. The IRS employs 120,000 people or so. She had a million task forces, but the senior one. Before we close, Id like to make one pitch though. In the early period, there was a lot of discussion of broad strategy, how to create support for deficit reduction as a whole, how to talk about the program, what type of interest groups we needed to particularly work with and work on. Somehow it came off successfully in Miami with all these heads of state and everybody was very happy with it. If were talking about 1991, I think his ideas were in formation. I think it just evolved rather randomly that not many of those former Carter people got involved with Clinton. I believe Greenspan went to Little Rock. They didnt want tickets to the Kennedy Center, they wantedI want this for my tomato farmers, or I want this for my citrus growers. Welfare reform is a different issue, though. So it was a combination of an organized role. That was in July or June or something. I dont believe Yeltsin attended the summit, but there was a lot of focus on Russia and what the G7 could do for Russia at that summit, so it was all kind of nice, uplifting stuff. If you think about it in the context of today, well see how the primary campaign plays out, but it will be unusual if differences on issues were the decisive factor. You had been asked to be a part of that enterprise. If nobody else has any more questions about that, the other trade issue that you were greatly involved with that we touched on only once or twice has been Japan. Not giving it a lot of thought, frankly, I said, Sure. Or should be, not will be, but should be. After all, thered been only two Democratic Presidents in the last 25 or 30 years and theyd both been southern Governors. I think that there wasagain, I dont follow this that closelybut there was a fast reaction in short-term rates when the Federal Reserve Board loosened, early on, in what appeared to be quid pro quoGreenspan offered some assurance to Congress that the Fed would be cognizant of the Federal. We can go into that in a little more depth, the pure politics part of it. He didnt like Clintons stimulus program. He never did anything spontaneously, at least professionally speaking. Today you have Governor [Howard] Dean, Congressman [Dick] Gephardt, for instance. It will be differences of style, differences of perception. Roger Altman is Founder and Senior Chairman of Evercore, the most active independent investment bank in the world today. I didnt think it was going to be that bad. We know youre extremely busy. The answer to that is yes. From that time forward, about 79 times out of 80 Clinton did whatever Bentsen said. Things like, I cant remember what example we used, but Senator X voted for us because he was afraid hed have to have lunch with the President again, things like that. [laughter]. The film director, known for making films that are highly naturalistic, but with a stylized The political process requires an outcome. Then thered been prior independent counsels. Clintons very first initiative was his stimulus program. Could be. Theres one thing about Clinton that I think is beyond debate, that hes a fabulous politician. So that resulted in my having, I suppose, a jack-of-all-trades job. I mean, there are libraries full of books that have already been written about that. No. So people should think of it in those very basic terms, and a lot of people havent and I think less of them for that. There were some cases where we did, but we didnt broadly know where each member of Congress really stood on this. Altman donated $41,000 to the Biden Action Fund, a joint fundraising committee, in May, according to Federal Election Commission records. What Im interested in is when the man who was elected to the Presidency decided on his course of action in some of these policy areas. When you say the coordinator, you mean of the Presidents message? Luck plays a big role in politics, and he was really lucky that a number of candidates who could have been very strong ones chose not to run. The House voted first, and on the day of the House vote we didnt think we had the votes, or at least we thought the odds were too high that we would lose. So I said, Well then, thats the course Im going to take. He has difficulty speaking. Richard Nixon resigned from office. You say you knew Rubin well, but did you have a sense that in the other places where economic policy-making is made there was ever any tension over this kind of an arrangement? I also learned that when I saw that, it wasnt likely to ultimately succeed. No. Yes, he did. No, Im sorry, it didnt have the power to do that, but there were ways of achieving that outcome. Mickey Kantor was in charge of the famous Little Rock Economic Summit. In any event, we didnt have a currency crisis at the time of that summit, or really didnt have one until the very middle, latter stages of the Clinton years. There were people like Senator [Phil] Gramm saying it would usher in a new depression. You know, the only other thought I would express on this is, despite the drama of the moment and the stakes, everyone, as they say, puts on his pants one leg at a time. Im Jim Young. Would I have considered moving to Switzerland if he did become President? Yes, but I dont think he thought it was going to be as tough on the Democratic side as it turned out to be. Yes I was asked to be part of that enterprise, but much later in the process. 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